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1957 wax pack scam????? please help!

QUIKQUIK Posts: 316
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Just found a 1957 wax pack gai 8 on ebay,and would love to buy it. I would love for some help if you think its a scam or not.?? Thanks it goes off in 2 hours i wish i found it sooner . item # 5229556714 Thank you Jeff
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Always Buying & Collecting 1957 Topps Baseball 1914 cj,s 1978 bb and any Hof bb

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  • VintageJeffVintageJeff Posts: 1,282 ✭
    Could go either way. The seller has bought and sold unopened. They have bought GAI packs before so it is not out of the realm of possibility that they have the pack. They have also built their feedback up with alot of small purchases as well. Their feedback is all good and they accept paypal so thats a plus. If I were to pull the trigger I would use paypal and MAKE SURE YOU USE YOUR CREDIT CARD with paypal. That way you have paypal and your credit card company to protect you. If the pack wasn't already graded I would say no way since they have bought quite a few wrappers on ebay.
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  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
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    Guy seems to be a collector of wax packs, going by his buys and sells.
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  • TipemTipem Posts: 881 ✭


    I got an e-mail warning from a reputable wax pack collector and good friend telling me that it is a seller that searches his packs.I am staying away.I would say buy at your own risk.



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  • QUIKQUIK Posts: 316
    Thanks for the help my gut said no and all your replys really helped me i believe save big $$. Thanks very much to all!!
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  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    No idea if the seller is a scammer or not, but wouldn't the GAI slab rule out a "searched" pack?
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I saw that pack and gave it a pass.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    I am a little confused, if this pack was opened ( or thoughts are it was) how did that get by the people at GAI? If we as collectors can't trust the only pack graders in the industry (until psa gets into it in 2006) then how can we be sure of any unopened material?

    baseball card kid's catalog prices out a series 2 57 pack at 2K..for what its worth;


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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The GAI pack is like any product you buy today that has been sealed in plastic halves - you know - the ones that you hate to open and wind up grabbing a knife and start hacking at it!

    These packs are not tamper proof - but "supposed" to be tamper evident I believe - those oddly geometric shaped areas are the indentational ridges in the holder that will show that the pack has been opened and resealed?

    If you look to the left of those shiny geometric tamper evident ridges, you will see a GRAYish vertical line - since I blew this up, that is the SPACE between the two pieces of plastic that are sealed together.

    I don't think it would be hard to carefully separate these two halves - the trick is to beat the tamper evident ridges.

    Key: how is this sealed - if by heat - ya can't get them back together - but if sonic resonance - if someone has access to a sealer?

    If I remember, Novocent once worked with battery packs that were put in bubble packs like the GAI packs and they were done with a sonic sealer.

    Where there's a crook, a will and a way - CROOK + Product + Method = SCAM

    mike
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,410 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am a little confused, if this pack was opened ( or thoughts are it was) how did that get by the people at GAI? If we as collectors can't trust the only pack graders in the industry (until psa gets into it in 2006) then how can we be sure of any unopened material?

    baseball card kid's catalog prices out a series 2 57 pack at 2K..for what its worth;


    Link to 57 pack >>


    IJust
    I'm not saying the guy is doing anything wrong but he has conveniently left out the "borders" of the holder?

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    Could be nothing or "How conveeeeeenient!"

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    mike
    Mike
  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    The scan with no borders might be an honest slip. Why take a chance though?

    '57 packs seem to show up in all the major auctions. There's a NM-MT 8 pack in the current Mastro auction.
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