Folks at ANACS smoking crack.

coinpictures

First, my apologies for the crappy photography (still trying to get the hang of this stuff on a new camera).

Got the German pieces I bought last week. Overall I'm quite pleased.

One of the coins I can't figure out though. The highest graded piece of the bunch (ANACS MS60) has a horrible gouge and some scraping on the nose. It doesn't look like just bag marks to me. It looks like damage. Is this acceptable for a MS60 coin?

(on the flip side, [sic] the reverse is gorgeous).

newsman

Did they net grade it?

Aethelred

IMO that should be net graded.

wildjag

I actually think the gouge was made by the die perhaps. But from your second photo I would say the coin is AU.

Oh and before putting it in a slab I would have cleaned those 3 PVC dots off the coin (obv above the W and E in Wilhelm; another in the hair)

But I like the reverse ...fantastic. I have one of these somewhere around here too

Compa

MS60 is the bottom of the barrel as far as Mint State coins go. It can be in very bad shape as far as bag marks and gouges go as long as it is uncirculated - no signs of wear. ANACS called it right - no crack involved

The obverse of a coin determines at least 80% of the grade - usually closer to 100% (unless the reverse is really horrible).

Blackhawk

He's got a nose like a goose or surf scoter.

1960NYGiants

<< <i>MS60 is the bottom of the barrel as far as Mint State coins go. It can be in very bad shape as far as bag marks and gouges go as long as it is uncirculated - no signs of wear. ANACS called it right - no crack involved >>





Gene

MadMuffin

If you look closely at the enlarged area you will see rubbing marks on the eyebrow, chin and parts of the hair. Besides that the damages to the coin don't look like they were made in the minting process. In my opinion the obverse is AU. Still a very nice coin, though.

Marcel

SYRACUSIAN

I have learned that with MS60, you can never expect a true MS coin,even low end, just an AU that has been offered a bonus grade for some reason, in this case for its 63/4 reverse and the decent luster (it appears so) on the obverse despite the other problems.

coinpictures

No it was not net graded. Straight up MS60.

I'm torn as to whether to keep or return the coin (seller said no problem with a refund). Absolutely love the reverse though...

-Dan

Preussen

Overall, it looks about as I would expect for an MS60, although I'd like to see the "gouge" first hand. I recently had a scarce Baden Victory Kreuzer (Offenburg) body bagged by PCGS for less. - Preussen

danglen

The coin was absolutely grade correctly. MS60 is the garbage can for Mint State coins, and by looking at the reverse, you can tell the coin is obviously Mint State. Since there is no such thing as a coin that is uncirculated on only one side, the logical conclusion is MS60

1jester

I agree with the MS60 grade. It's certainly better than a body bag.

MacCrimmon

Agreed on the MS60 analysis. If the surface quality on the obv. is not pleasing, then return it immediately for a refund.....

If you don't like it now, you will never like it.

Also, those Germanic reverses are almost always 2-3 points better than the obverses due to the busy design and myriad of small "contact" points which minimize overall bagging of the fields. The same holds for VOH UK and later shillings, and all florins.

Preussen

<< <i>if you don't like it now, you will never like it. Also, those Germanic reverses are almost always 2-3 points better than the obverses . >>



- Preussen

lordmarcovan

That looks MS60 to me.

The green specks near the top of the obverse would concern me more, though- PVC?

I dunno- ANACS is death on PVC. They bodybagged a coin of mine for PVC I couldn't even see. So maybe those specks are something else.

(Yes, I am one of the few, the proud... the people who've actually gotten a bodybag from ANACS!)

coinpictures

<< <i>If you don't like it now, you will never like it. >>



Yeah, you're right. Things like that just nag at the mind. It's going back.

-Dan