Warning: Counterfeit US Philippine 1906-S peso offered on eBay
Justhavingfun
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8324868838 is the lot number.
The curved serif on the 1 is the tell-tale.
Best wishes from Manila,
Just Having Fun
The curved serif on the 1 is the tell-tale.
Best wishes from Manila,
Just Having Fun
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DPOTD-3
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CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
Pretty bold using a big pic like that too! unless the seller doesn't know? But the general rule applies here: China + private bidders = avoid.
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DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
yes it's THE large one to have... Unles it's counterfeit!
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166 BHDs & 154 Die Varieties & Die States...
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Festivus Yes! Bagels No!
The color is also typical of a cast counterfeit.
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Here's how you can tell this coin is counterfeit ...
The 1906-S peso is THE key coin in the US-Philippine series. Were it real, it would be worth several thousand dollars, even as an abusively cleaned coin.
1. After 1906, the size of the US Philippine Pesos was reduced, so when the 1906-S is counterfeited (altered date), it has to be made from the 1903, 04, or 05 dates to have a chance of fooling.
2. All 1903, 1904, and through October of 1905, ALL US Philippine Pesos were made with a curved upper serif on 1. The serif end in a broad plateau over the descender of the one.
3. In November of 1905, the master die was changed. The most visible difference between the old and new die was the upper serif on the 1. The new serif was straight, with a little flat top over the right hand side of the descender. That's why there's a type 1 and a type 2 1905-S pesos, with the type 2 much more scarce.
4. The new die with the straighten serif on the 1 continued in use for the 1906-S pesos. So ALL legitimate 1906-S pesos have the straight serif. Any 1906-S with a curved upped serif on the one is bogus. You don't need to look any further.
5. The peso shown has the curved upper serif on the 1, so it's bogus. No if's, and's, or but's. It's a clear fake. No US-Philippine dealer needs to look a second further.
6. I'm in Manila right now, getting ready to fly home to Bangkok. But beforeI leave, a US Philippine dealer from here in Manila will visit. I'll ask him to look at the coin and confirm my report on the coin to you on this thread.
Warm regards,
Just Having Fun
As 1jester says the coin has the appearance of a cast CF. Wouldn't it be ironic if they cast this coin from an original 1903 which has had the last numeral chased to appear as a "6".