How wrong is the POP Report really?

Nosoupyou

Most of us have cracked cards and sent them in for regrade. I have had pretty good experience doing it especially going from 7 to 8.

Do you mostly crack 7's or 8's to move up?

What % do you think the POP report is really off?

I would say anywhere from 15-25% depending on the card, star quality, value etc.

Also, I always look at a cards relative % in a certain grade to the overall number of graded cards instead of just the raw number. For example, the 61 Jerry West, #66 has a pop of 63 in PSA 8 out of 305 overall submitted. #65 Twyman is considered "tough" at 40 in PSA 8 out of 131. The West is much "tougher" even though there are 23 more out there.

FYS

<< <i>Most of us have cracked cards and sent them in for regrade. I have had pretty good experience doing it especially going from 7 to 8.

Do you mostly crack 7's or 8's to move up?

What % do you think the POP report is really off?

I would say anywhere from 15-25% depending on the card, star quality, value etc.

Also, I always look at a cards relative % in a certain grade to the overall number of graded cards instead of just the raw number. For example, the 61 Jerry West, #66 has a pop of 63 in PSA 8 out of 305 overall submitted. #65 Twyman is considered "tough" at 40 in PSA 8 out of 131. The West is much "tougher" even though there are 23 more out there. >>



You should send you old labels back to PSA. I think they actually pay 50 cents or a dollar for them?

jmbkb4

Excellent question. For some of the high-grade/popularity cards, I'll bet the POP report is off by a substantial margin (your 15-25% is probably undershooting somewhat).

zef204

<< <i>I think they actually pay 50 cents or a dollar for them >>

I thought that I read somewhere on here that they no longer do this.

Anyone have info?

Onlypsahockey

It only costs $0.37 to send the flips back. Seems like the thing to do if you crack and resubmit. If I did I'd want to keep the pops in line.

JMO, Bob

jmbkb4

<< <i>It only costs $0.37 to send the flips back. Seems like the thing to do if you crack and resubmit. If I did I'd want to keep the pops in line.

JMO, Bob >>


Why? If your card (that you submitted) bumps up a grade, it makes your newly-graded card all the more rare if the PSA 7 (for example) remains in the POP report.

If PSA is serious about keeping their POP report valid, they should certainly pay for the cracked identifying paper/slip from the case.

gregmadduxfan

The one thing they really can't keep in line is people cracking PSA cards and sending them into ohter grading companies.

Onlypsahockey

<< The one thing they really can't keep in line is people cracking PSA cards and sending them into ohter grading companies. >>

No but if the flip was sent back they could keep the pops in line.

<< Why? If your card (that you submitted) bumps up a grade, it makes your newly-graded card all the more rare if the PSA 7 (for example) remains in the POP report. >>

I disagree, The card is more rare if there are less total graded examples.

JMO, Bob

gosteelers

<< <i><< The one thing they really can't keep in line is people cracking PSA cards and sending them into ohter grading companies. >>

No but if the flip was sent back they could keep the pops in line.

<< Why? If your card (that you submitted) bumps up a grade, it makes your newly-graded card all the more rare if the PSA 7 (for example) remains in the POP report. >>

I disagree, The card is more rare if there are less total graded examples.

JMO, Bob >>



Josh,
I agree with Bob...The lower number of cards graded, the better...Especially for the set you and I are collecting (1993 Finest Refractors)

Mark