Roosie 2005 Business strike

Dan50

OK Has anyone sent any business strike 2005 Roosevelt dimes in for grading? If so, have you heard anything back on them, or know first hand, anyone that has? I know questions have been asked about this before, but I for one need to know how this coin can be ignored in the pop list. There is a difference between these and satin finish coins. So as I'm about to send in some coins for grading, (no 05 non mint set dimes included) I notice there is no pcgs number for the 05 business strike. WHERE'S THE 8?

Stooge

Dan50,
I applaud your effort, and I certainly care, though most people DO NOT CARE about this coin. There has been a total of just 1 non-SMS/Satin Roosevelt dimes graded to date...period.

The Clad Roosie Circulation strike series is a walking corpse.

I recently bought on Teletrade a 1971-D MS67FB (2/0) for $339 delivered. If this was a Lincoln Cent, Jefferson Nickel, Kennedy half, or a Washington Quarter with the same pop, it would have sold for QUADRUPLE this amt.

Face it, Roosies are DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!

Later, Paul.

Dan50

Paul the flip side to that is to get them cheap while you can. Investment wise who could ask for more? I admit that most of the coins I will submit this time will be from other series. That is if I can fight the temptation to sub all Roosies AGAIN. But I am so tired of not getting bands when they are so obvious, and SMS when they are not SMS.

Mark

Paul:

I am so pleased to read that you got such a rare coin for such a reasonable price on Teletrade. I am cursing the fact that I am in a multi-year dry spell as far as coin money goes due to paying for college for too many (nah, I love 'em all!) kids. Sigh...wait a few years and then I'll rejoin you in the clad dime series.

Mark

brccoins

Hello,

You are in luck! I am going to be sending in a large number of both P and D business strike Roosevelt Dimes in just a couple days -Brian

Stooge

Dan50,
With all that I stated above about the Clad Roosies being dead, I infact LOVE this coin! I'm just making a statement regarding the fact that only a miniscule amt. of collectors care. Thats why only 1 non-satin Roosie has been graded for 2005.

We are the believers that collect this coin now and when they re-design this coin, I will really feel for those that will come after us, because when we have completed our sets, they will have to scrounge up for whats left at moon $$$ prices.

Just for thought, I would prefer to have a MS68FB over a MS69FB/SF.

Later, Paul.

Mark

Paul:

I agree with your assessment about the desirability of a MS 68FB. I, too, would prefer that coin.

Mark

Dan50

Mark Paul and I will save you a place in the registry, just tell them we sent you.

Brian let us know when you get your results.

Mistercoinman

Paul, Dan and Mark:

I am still around and collecting Roosies just like before. For me upgrades and fb coins are getting harder to come by. I too would like to have a 68 fb non SMS coin, and if Dan or Paul want to dump some of there coins I'm a buyer.



Fred

bushmaster8

Dan- Please pardon me for hitch-hicking along on your thread, but I need advice of Roosie collectors and the Reg.forum seems to be popular for Roosie fans.

I found a couple of mint sets containing scarce FBers. A 1995 mint set with a FB 95-D is a no-brainer... I will happily cut that set up & submit the dime. They are too scarce (pop. 66/1, 67/2) to do otherwise.

But a 1997 set with a 97P FB I am not so sure about. I think it will only grade MS66 FB. With the cost of the 1997 mint set approaching $40 now, would it be wise to cut the set up?

Pop.'s on 97-P are: 66/4, 67/5, 68/2

What would you guys do??

Dan50

BM I have a 97-p66FB in my set, that I hope to upgrade someday. There are not so many FB'S for this year that a 66 would not be wanted by many building their sets. I would think you could at least get set price for it. If you are using the P coin, you can always save the D set to insert with an extra P set you may end up with in the future. I have many extras like that and sooner or later you will match it up and have the complete set again.

Also BushMaster I have bought several of my set's coins from you, mostly from ebay. So you have been very helpful in putting some quality coins in this set. The point is, you never have to ask for pardon to talk on any thread I start.

Dennis88

Unfortanly Roosies are dead, as nobody even want's to buy my registry clad coins

Dennis

Mistercoinman

BM,

If you only think it will grade out at 66 FB don't waste your time. You couls sell it for about $50. on a good day. It's simple math. Mint set $40 grading $16 listing and selling fees $5 you are in the red before you start. Hold on to the set for a year or two the market for Roosies will return and you will be ahead of the game. You know its full band thats not likely to change so whats the rush.

Fred:



MMMMM;

Dan50

Well about the only thing that will change is grading fees. Ever think of that? Grading now and putting it away would at least beat any fee increase from PCGS, shipping, and ins. rates to and from. But the main thing is, every coin won't make your pockets bulge. But I bet theres some people that would be grateful for the chance to add it to their set now. And if that dosen't cost you out of the pocket, and in fact you make a few $$$, I say do it. Putting a mid grade coin away for a few years just gives the pops a chance to make it worth less.

Dan50

<< <i>Unfortanly roosies are dead, as nobody even want's to buy my registry clad coins >>



Not so Dennis88, if you have registry grade Roosie's some of us will want them. IF/and/or it has a spot open in our sets. Just im me with what you have and we will see who needs it. I think everyone in the top twenty is still upgrading.

onlyroosies

Roosies are NOT dead. In fact they are very much alive. I have sold more Roosies over the last 6
months then I ever have. Low pop, key date FB silver and clad Roosies are as strong as ever.
Common date, high pop, non FB Roosies are very weak. I'm sure most of you remember my price list
that was on the BST board. I sold many of those dimes for more then the price I had listed on
the BST board. The difference from then to now is that most of the dimes I'm selling are going
to collectors and "others" not on the Roosevelt registry. My 200+ FB clad and silver Roosies I had
for sale is down to about 50. If you want to rate how strong Roosies are by the red in the registry then you
are going to miss the boat. I have 2 complete FB silver sets put away and I will not sell them.

Does anyone here know of a sale that has occurred for any of these dates in a PCGS holder?. (Mitch, You can't play.... )
1952P 67FB....
1953P 67FB....
1954S 67FB....
1955P 67FB....
1955S 67FB....
1956P 67FB....
1957P 67FB....
1958P 67FB....
1961P 67FB....
1963P 67FB.... I will pay $3500 for the first one made, sight seen.
1963D 67FB....

I could sell anyone of the above dates for strong money and I doubt anyone on the registry would even know.

wondercoin

Nick: I agree with you. In fact, key date Roosies with solid quality are about as strong as ever IMHO.

I tried to buy a 1968 NO S Roosie PR68 in the last Heritage sale. Before it was over, I put my paddle down and watched a stronger bidder than I take the prize away from me at around $32,000.00 with the juice!!! $32,000.00 for a Roosie Dime that sold for a tiny fraction of that level just a few years ago and close to 1/2 that level just a year or so ago! And, yes, I "stretched" to try to buy this wonderful Proof Roosie, but, there was someone even stronger there to take the coin.

Wondercoin

Mistercoinman

Hey Guys, Just Ducky has the only ms-67fb non satin finish 2005-p roosey! It's in his second set, this is the first one I've seen!!! Here's the LINK

Dan50

I noticed that yesterday. I know one sold on ebay about two weeks ago. I don't know if it's the same one, or if there are more that havent hit the pops yet. I'm thinking the latter. What I want to see is what happens when you try to list both sf and non sf for the registry.

onlyroosies

Has anyone noticed that Paul's set is closed and it was just updated and he has the highest
GPA of any set on the registry. I'm thinking he might have a few special coins in his set he
doesn't want anyone to know about......

Dan50

I say we bust in there and see what goodies he's hiding.

Stooge

<< <i>Has anyone noticed that Paul's set is closed and it was just updated and he has the highest
GPA of any set on the registry. I'm thinking he might have a few special coins in his set he
doesn't want anyone to know about...... >>



I added a MS67FB that I previously did not own. Sorry, but the date is a secret. I will tell you this though...its not a 1970

Later, Paul.

Mistercoinman

Paul, I think its the 1971 67 fb you picked up on teletrade!!! I know Nick and you are working on some nice upgrades. I know someday you will be #1.

XXX

1958P 67FB....


I'll take one of these if ones laying around not being used...........Really, I'll bite if someone has one for sale.

Stooge

<< <i>Paul, I think its the 1971 67 fb you picked up on teletrade!!! I know Nick and you are working on some nice upgrades. I know someday you will be #1. >>



Mistercoinman, are you referring to the 1971-D MS67FB? I'm not aware of a 1971-P MS67FB. The 71-D I already added! I actually owned a 1971-D in 67 before the FB's. This one is a different date.

AND.......I have a few FB Roosies in the works that do not include Mr. C!

Are we having fun yet?
Paul.

Mistercoinman

Sorry forgot the D? I know you have something going on! your set is closed the upgrade sign is on. Yes we are going to have some fun.

onlyroosies

"I know someday you will be #1"

I believe that too and I'm going to do everything I can to help. Whoops!!!! I just remembered that I promised
I would help 3 other collectors too. OK, here is what I will do for my first commitment.

I promise I will not sell any more clad Roosies to type set and mint set collectors, Even if I have to hold
them for 5 years. I will put together a new price list for the remainder of the clad FB Roosies I have,
post them on the BST board and sell only to a Roosevelt registry participants.

Keep watching for "the list"

Stooge

<< <i>"I know someday you will be #1"

I believe that too and I'm going to do everything I can to help. Whoops!!!! I just remembered that I promised
I would help 3 other collectors too. OK, here is what I will do for my first commitment.

I promise I will not sell any more clad Roosies to type set and mint set collectors, Even if I have to hold
them for 5 years. I will put together a new price list for the remainder of the clad FB Roosies I have,
post them on the BST board and sell only to a Roosevelt registry participants.

Keep watching for "the list" >>



GOOD-BOY! Now ur learning!

Later, Paul.

Dan50

<< <i>I promise I will not sell any more clad Roosies to type set and mint set collectors.

I thought I was awake, pinch pinch, no, yes, yes, I'm awake.

onlyroosies

There up on the BST board. Whats left is up.

bushmaster8

<< <i>Hello,

You are in luck! I am going to be sending in a large number of both P and D business strike Roosevelt Dimes in just a couple days -Brian >>



Funny, the population report does not support Brian's assertion!

But! I see someone finally made a FB 2005-D non-satin: 2005-D FB dime

Dan50

Bush, quit playing with that snake and go find us some top pop Dimes.

brccoins

Ok guys, I just got my grades back on my 05 business strike dimes. I made 6 MS67-D mint and a number of 66's. I will hold on to most of the 67's because they were so hard to get. I'll probably let a couple go. These will be very rare because I doubt many people are saving new bank rolls of these coins. Everyone has counted on there always being a million mint sets full of these that you can buy cheap at any time. Not any more. I've always found this kind of stuff to go up in value the very most. It's always what you least expect.

onlyroosies

I made 6 MS67-D mint and a number of 66's.

The value is in the FB designation. How many did you make in MS67FB...

brccoins

Only Rosies, unfortunately none went FB.

cladking

<< <i>Only Rosies, unfortunately none went FB. >>



I've been wanting to set aside brand new times ever since the states quarter program started
but just can't seem to find the coins. I used to get them from a big regional bank in this area but
I stopped back in the mid-'90's and they don't want to do it anymore.

Ideally I'd look through an occasional bag as I did in the old days and save the nicer specimens
but now you have to pay a premium plus shipping just to get your hands on them. It gets pretty
expensive when sometimes there won't be a nice coin in a whole $500 box.

Collectors were missing a bet in the old days by not looking at these since the varieties don't
show up in mint sets and sometimes the regular issues don't either. Now they'll be missing an
even better bet since the regular issues might be tough in the future in unc. At 10c each it
would be very hard to go far wrong but at a dollar or two then there's some real risk. A few
times I set a bag aside and then just spent it when it turned out the coins were saved by oth-
ers too.

fcloud

The coin at Teletrade looks like the torch has a scratch across it. I thought the torch had to be problem free?

Dan50

The 05-D non sf dimes in FB are not going to be a problem to find. But high grades may be another story. I have about six set aside, but none will go above 66FB at best. So the bands are out there, just going take looking through a lot of rolls to find the 67FB's. As for anything higher, well thats going to be tougher than during mint set years. So don't even think about pops like the 99-04 years, it's not going to happen.