here's the 1922 plain die pair FOUR

dorkkarl

in past discussions re: 1922-plain lincoln cents, i've mentioned several times that there are actually FOUR die pairs, not 3. for you afficianodos of the series, here's your chance to get 1.

K S

mgoodm3

That ain't a plain, it's a weak D. Didn't know there were 4 die pairs inolved.

coppercoins

there are actually a number of different dies that have a weak "D", only three of them are known to have the "D" completely wear off before the die was retired. I was privy to examining an example of a strong reverse 1922D "no D" that showed a ghost of a mintmark in early die state. All of the determining markers were there for this being the valuable one, but it did indeed have a ghost mintmark. Like I've said many times before, there is no such thing as a 1922D die having been hung on the press that never had a mintmark on it to begin with. All of them wore off, some faster than others.

millennium

From what I see, it a 1922 Weak D....Not the "plain"...

seanq

I'm reasonably sure that Ira Stein was the person who identified what ANACS is caling 'Die 4' in that auction. Before Ira identified this new pairing, there were generally three accepted die pairs known without the mintmark, with Dies 1 and 3 paired with a weak reverse and Die 2 paired with a strong reverse.

ANACS will call any coin from Die 1, 3, or 4 "Weak D" on their insert, only Die 2 is certified with "No D" on the holder. Similarly, PCGS calls Die 1 and 3 "Weak Reverse" and Die 2 "Strong Reverse". I don't know of any service other than ANACS which has accepted the existence of Die 4.


Sean Reynolds

Steve

As a collector of Lincoln cents, both business strike and proof, I have determined to collect the die 2, strong reverse as my representative of the 1922 plain major variety in my collection. I understand that both die 1 and die 3 resulted in plugged "d" mintmarks which were in various states of weakness. Only the die 2 was a true No "D" and should be the only one to command significant value. I had not heard of this so called die 4, but I wouldn't doubt that it could be classified with other Lincoln cent varieties that exist. Some people who may not be able to afford the real thing are happy to at least have some kind of example of this coin. Steve

dorkkarl

anacs properly calls it a "weak d". pcgs would improperly call it a "no d, weak rev.".

anacs will only call die pair 2 "no d", far as i know.

K S

CaptHenway

Does anybody have a good picture of a 1922-D Die Pair 4 I can use in the book?