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This Seller is a jerk...

IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
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I am sorry, but the reserve not met, I really believe the seller is smoking something or just wanted to see how much he could tease people...

SMR = $700.00

final bid price was 16% above SMR and it didnt meet reserve?....

population is only "548"

what a jerK!!!!


Link to Auction
The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set

Comments

  • ThrowdownThrowdown Posts: 189
    He's a jerk because he had a reserve that was higher than what you wanted to pay?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    that is a sweet example but 810 should have hit the reserve. maybe the guy wanted to see just how much he could get for it?

    SD
    Good for you.
  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    <<<<<<He's a jerk because he had a reserve that was higher than what you wanted to pay? >>>>


    sorry, I already own 2 versions of the card in a PSA 7 and 1 in a PSA 8...It has nothing to do with what I wanted, I just think it was an unfair auction

    in addition, if the seller feels the card is a 8 and not a 7 then rather than have a auction where people are bidding on a card believing it is a fair bid, who really have no shot at the card because its value "reserve" is way inflated beyond what a true value for the card is..

    Oh, and I should pay more for a 7 than I can buy 100 examples of this card for in a 7, yet this sellers judgement of the cards condition far exceeds the professionals at PSA who looked at the card under a light and thru a loop and maybe found a surface wrinkle, or maybe a ding that is not evident to the naked eye which this seller didn't see.



    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i><<<<<<He's a jerk because he had a reserve that was higher than what you wanted to pay? >>>>


    sorry, I already own 2 versions of the card in a PSA 7 and 1 in a PSA 8...It has nothing to do with what I wanted, I just think it was an unfair auction

    in addition, if the seller feels the card is a 8 and not a 7 then rather than have a auction where people are bidding on a card believing it is a fair bid, who really have no shot at the card because its value "reserve" is way inflated beyond what a true value for the card is..

    Oh, and I should pay more for a 7 than I can buy 100 examples of this card for in a 7, yet this sellers judgement of the cards condition far exceeds the professionals at PSA who looked at the card under a light and thru a loop and maybe found a surface wrinkle, or maybe a ding that is not evident to the naked eye which this seller didn't see. >>



    Oh, c'mon-- it's not like bidding on an auction is on par with the 7 labors of Hercules. You see the auction, you put in a bid-- if your bid doesn't hit the reserve you quietly move on.

    There's what the card is worth in the open market, and there's what the card is worth to the owner. Sometimes these numbers match up, and sometimes they don't. If they don't then nobody has either gained or lost.
  • DerekDDerekD Posts: 388 ✭✭
    The PSA 7 that ended 2 minutes after this one finished at $880. I guess SMR is a bit low on this one.

    Auction link

    The 8 that ended yesterday went for $1903 with a SMR of $1750.

    I'm feeling a trend here.


    Edit: I wish my piece of crap raw one was half as nice as these.
  • iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366
    No sympathy from me either. The guy is a jerk for wanting more than SMR for his card? Since when is SMR accurate? Try buying a well-centered Koufax from a dealer for under SMR. I agree though that reserve auctions aren't much fun, I wish people would either disclose the amount or just have an opening bid for their minimum price.

    Brian
  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    nobody's looking for sympathy..my issue is the reserve is set way way above smr..if you want to do that then say in your auction you "feel the card was undergraded" as far as the auction that ended 2 minutes later, the card sold.

    my point is.. if you are selling something with a reserve which is fine, and it is a card with a pop of over 500, and you feel your example is better than the current smr indicates because of its condition ( no matter what the flip says), just let people know that, we are not mind readers, it isn't like it is a low pop hard card in high grade.

    and as far as dealers, they put the price up..you either pay for it or not, at least you know what your dealing with.
    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    "my point is.. if you are selling something with a reserve which is fine, and it is a card with a pop of over 500, and you feel your example is better than the current smr indicates because of its condition ( no matter what the flip says), just let people know that, we are not mind readers, it isn't like it is a low pop hard card in high grade."

    A guy can stage a poorly conceived auction and not be a jerk.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    "and as far as dealers, they put the price up..you either pay for it or not, at least you know what your dealing with."

    Like I said, what's the problem? Enter a bid price-- if you don't meet the reserve then what's the big deal? Wait for the next one to come along.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    "I agree though that reserve auctions aren't much fun..'

    Reserve auctions are a pain in the butt if you're sniping, since you don't know if you have any chance of winning the item or not. Thus, it plays havoc on your card budget; particularly if it's a card you really want and the auction doesn't end for six days.

    I get around this by just not bidding on reserve auctions. Or, if I do bid I bid only once (with no snipe), and if it doesn't meet the reserve I'm out of the running. The ironic thing is that I see a ton of cards that probably would have met the reserve if the bidding had just started at a buck! So I guess we're not alone.
  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭
    Using a reserve is a way of trying to capture what the highest bidder will pay. Not simply the next highest increment from the number two bidder. This seller paid at least $2.40 for the $100 listing fee and 1% of whatever his reserve was for the priviledge to list it the way he did. Had he simply listed his price it would have cost $4.80 to list and saved some bidders some time. Of course had the reserve been met, he would have got the 1% back.
  • smallstockssmallstocks Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭✭
    Like Boopotts, I never bid on a reserve auction unless I know a reserve has already been met.

    Mike

    Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭✭
    Geez, what is the issue here?

    I will tell you whats increasing....whining threads.

    Loves me some shiny!
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    in addition, if the seller feels the card is a 8 and not a 7 ...

    yet this sellers judgement of the cards condition far exceeds the professionals at PSA who looked at the card under a light and thru a loop and maybe found a surface wrinkle, or maybe a ding that is not evident to the naked eye which this seller didn't see. >>




    huh?.. i dont see the seller claim the card is "undergraded" anywhere in that auction ..
    ·p_A·
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Must want to keep the card more than part with it deep inside? That is one nice looking 7 though.

    Stingray
  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    the seller in a response to me indicated he felt the card was a 8 and poss a 9 and that psa undergraded the card..sorry I should have clarified that.


    <<<<< I will tell you whats increasing....whining threads>>>>

    nobody's whining...obviously, you are not seeing my point, which is fine, we all have opinons, have a nice day.
    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I guess he should break it out and have it regraded. It is a 7 and therefore be sold as a 7.


    Stingray
  • DaBigHurtDaBigHurt Posts: 1,066 ✭✭
    I nominate this thread as "Worst Thread of the Week."

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    GO MARLINS! Home of the best fans in baseball!!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    If the seller truly feels that then he should resubmit it. he then would be able to meet his reserve.

    SD
    Good for you.
  • srs1asrs1a Posts: 398 ✭
    Throw SMR out on nicely centered PSA-7 star cards from the '50's. Not long ago, a very nicely centered '58 Mays of mine went for 60+% over SMR.

    And...throw it out for poorly centered ones.

    The range that 7's sell for is huge depending on the eye appeal of the card. My guess is that guy was just fishing to see how much his card would fetch..and set a high reserve because he was more interested in learning than selling.

    Dr S. of the Dead Donkeys MC
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭


    << <i>Throw SMR out on nicely centered PSA-7 star cards from the '50's. Not long ago, a very nicely centered '58 Mays of mine went for 60+% over SMR.

    And...throw it out for poorly centered ones.

    The range that 7's sell for is huge depending on the eye appeal of the card. My guess is that guy was just fishing to see how much his card would fetch..and set a high reserve because he was more interested in learning than selling. >>



    I agree. I have paid and will continue to pay up to 25% above "SMR" for nicely centered cards, whether 6, 7 or 8.
  • gmoneystylesgmoneystyles Posts: 349 ✭✭
    rough croud huh Ijustlovecards. They arent always this cranky. Must be in the water.

    Now looking for a 1950 Bowman Baseball Box as pictured below.
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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seller is not a jerk in my opinion. Both Koufax and Clemente from this set seem to have very rabid fans and the bottom line is, don't sell anything for less than you think it's worth or pay more than you think it's worth.

    I really don't see a problem with seller at all.

    Let's have fun with the hobby!

    JoeBanzai
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • RuthfanRuthfan Posts: 185
    Maybe the guy paid more for the card than the auction ended at for which in turn is the reason the reserve was not met. The guy's a jerk because he did not sell a card for what you think he should have sold it at?
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