Time to put up or shut up Axtell
WinPitcher
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Where's WP to defend him, and still call him a 'clean' player who never took roids?
show me where i said that.
SD
show me where i said that.
SD
Good for you.
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Only an ardent Raffy supporter (and one who believes he didn't take steroids) would have debated so vigorously Raffy deserving to be in the hall.
ardent supporter? hardly it was a debate regarding stats.
you had your chance to show me......you didn't cuz you can't
SD
so now its time to shut up
SD
Anyone who debates FOR a certain player (as you have done in your countless posts on Raffy's worthiness for the hall) is a fan of his. I don't care what you say, you wouldn't invest so much time and energy into posting unless you really liked him as a player. You wouldn't say he's a definite HoFer without believing he is truly worthy.
So it's come out that he cheated his way to his numbers - are you man enough to fess up and say he doesn't belong now? Or are you going to stick by your guns that he's deserving of the hall?
please don't take my passion for debate with regards to palmiero as me being his most ardent fan. it makes you appear childish and someone who thinks he is all knowing.
our debate which was strictly about stats and never about if he used or didnt use is now in your mind fair game for you to attempt to attack me.
i say it again PUT UP OR SHUT UP
show me where I said he was clean and that i was his most ardent supporter. as a matter of fact a few times I told you i could care less about palmiero. you know as well as i do that it was strictly a stat debate.
I am waiting for your "PROOF"
SD
I am right here, not hiding especially from you. Never said he was clean or dirty.
hey didnt you say that you would no longer poet regarding me? keep your word to the community.
WinPitcher
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Thursday July 14, 2005 7:43 PM (NEW!)
How was he a consistent home run threat for 20 years?
Ax if that was for me..........
I never said he was. re read my post
not a mention of homers........
He didn't hit 30+ home runs until his 8th year in the league (37) which he followed up with 23,
first off his first yr shant be counted, as he was most prolly a late season call up, to call that a yr is ludicrous. the 2nd was a half yr. and as for follwed up with 23. you conveniently left out that it was the STRIKE yr when almost 1/3 of the season was wiped out. Now if it is later proved that he was indeed on the juice , well then perhaps my opinion of him will change. with that said,. you will never convince me that Palmiero is not hall worthy and bound.
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SD
now put up or shut up.
thanks
your the typical schoolyard bully that when your "mark" does not back down you slink off.
Just as I did not "back down from your threat of all out war in PM (which i will gladly copy and paste for you) with your permission I at this time will accept your challenge. look for me to not back down but to be on the offensive.
hey did you not say this a few days ago?:
Axtell
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Tuesday July 26, 2005 1:31 PM (NEW!)
<< What saddens me is that you have no clue. what gave you the impression that I base a fans loyalty on WS wins?
I never made any such statement.
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WP: just so you and the rest of the community knows, I will no longer reply to your little digs at me...spammy I can have fun with, you are just ridiculous. I am sure everyone here is sick and tired of our going back and forth...I know I am.
Enjoy your rants though!
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Expect a few jabs in return too.
Where's WP to defend him, and still call him a 'clean' player who never took roids?
Im waiting...........
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Im right here, where are you? under a rock?