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gaspipe26 · July 27, 2005 1:23PM

Well I scoured the floor, found some interesting items, 1971 Football Vending boxes as well as 1973 ones too. An artist who does the greatest paintings in the most vivid colors of todays stars and events. They were facinating. Lots of EX_MT commons and overpriced graded as I expected. I figure I'll be done tomorrow. Might be my last National for a few years. Oh did get to meet Virgil the WWF wrestler and the great comedianne Ruth Buzzi. Ruth was great. I'm not being sarcastic. OH YES I almost forgot. I did get to hail the KING. KING KELLOGG that is.

IJustLoveCards · July 27, 2005 1:27PM

Thanks for the report!!!

zef204 · July 27, 2005 1:27PM

What were they asking for the 71 box?

ArnyVee · July 27, 2005 1:30PM

So, a bit overpriced and overrated?

Carew29 · July 27, 2005 2:42PM

I remember the Anaheim show a few years back, i ended up making better deals by people walking around with stuff than i did at the tables. And imagine, not a one had a ego problem!!

Remobolan · July 27, 2005 9:09PM

Gaspipe,

I didn't get to go this year but I would realy appreciate it if you could get a card from the people who have the 71 & 73 vending boxes. A phone number would be great. I would owe you big time. Please pm me. Thanks.

CDC4 · July 28, 2005 1:09AM

Bob,

What was the name of the painter? Does he/she have a web site? I remember seeing an artist a couple years ago at the Atlantic City National but don't remember the name of the company or painter. Thanks.

gosteelers · July 28, 2005 2:36AM

As an aside, does anyone know where the National will be in 2006?

Mark

Carew29 · July 28, 2005 3:09AM

Anaheim Convention Center

thegemmintman · July 28, 2005 4:18AM

Here is a schedule of the next four Nationals:

2006 - Anaheim Convention Center
2007 - Cleveland OH - I-X Center
2008 - Anaheim CA - Anaheim Convention Center
2009 - Chicago IL - Donald E Stephens Convention Center

smallstocks · July 28, 2005 5:17AM

Why do they avoid the east coast and NY?

thegemmintman · July 28, 2005 6:29AM

<< <i>Why do they avoid the east coast and NY? >>

Smallstocks, they had it in Atlantic City two years ago. It wasn't exactly a huge success. I can't for the life of me understand why they won't attempt a show in New York.

KOBEcollector · July 28, 2005 6:39AM

Was it 2 years ago in A.C or 1 year ago ?

TheCARDKid · July 28, 2005 6:41AM

Anaheim in 2006! Wooo hooo! Can't wait to go. It's been ages since I've been to a "real" show (sorry NAXCOM/Hollywood Park).

thegemmintman · July 28, 2005 6:50AM

<< <i>Was it 2 years ago in A.C or 1 year ago ? >>

Definitely two years ago.

bosko56 · July 28, 2005 6:58AM

Because MR. MINT would want to host it!!!

Stan/bosko56

CollectorChris · July 28, 2005 7:08AM

If you're a collector rather than a dealer, I think it usually doesn't pay to fly long distance and incur hotel charges to attend the National Convention unless you're mainly going for the social aspects. To me the money would have been better spent on cards in Ebay and other various auctions going on right now (Memory Lane, Superior, Mastronet, Lelands, Goodwin, etc) When the National is within a reasonable driving distance for a day trip (or two), then I attend.

gaspipe26 · July 28, 2005 8:42AM

Well day 2 is over, and it was about the same as Day 1. I made my large submission to PSA, and a 15 card next day one. I might try to catch a flight out tomorrow night if I can. No need to stay after the luncheon tomorrow.
The 1971 Football vending is very expensive, I expect maybe 25-30% too high. The 1973 is possibly reasonable. I may try to negotiate 1 or 2 of those.

Ripken · July 28, 2005 3:55PM

Enjoying the national..Wed thru Friday. The volume is simply overwhelming. AFter 1 1/2 days I've almost seen every table (not stopped at, but at least 'seen'). Picked up about 75 gradeable cards ..and plugged some holes in some '60s and early 70s sets--usually at about 60-125% of book (for the best of the best) for about 10 hours of searching. Prices are a bit high, but it's nice to be able to see the cards you're buying (at least at tables where light is good). My impression is dealers are not doing that well. But most of them don't admit it. I think they make their money buying/selling with other dealers and the occasional deep pockets collector.

Brought $1800..spent about $1600 so far and will be looking for an ATM in the morning!

Met King Kellogg..although it didn't hit me until after we left the table where he introduced himself. I don't really 'know' any of you but I've bought from him before & of course see his messages here.

Crowd has been pretty good and would expect it to be bigger now that the weekend is here.

BillsGridironGreats · July 29, 2005 4:02AM

I went yesterday and only had 5 hours to get around. It is a social event, I talked to Gale Sayers for 10 minutes which was very nice. I am leading the master set of his. Cards are higher priced than on ebay, but if you have it, you can ask whatever you want, doesn't mean someone will pay that. I did meet one of the leading 1977 mexican football dealers so I can complete somemore registry master sets. I had a good time, except for the construction on I80 and three traffic jams on the way home. It is nice having teh quarterly shows in Chicago, but I definately made some connections with people that can help me complete some of the sets I am working on.

NFLTEAMSETSPLUS · July 29, 2005 12:39PM

Hey Bill. You must have met Mike at Touchdown Treasures on the 1977 Topps Football Mexican.
What did you get from him? Did you get some #360 Paytons from him? What other Mexicans did he have
around on display? If it was not him who was it? I wish I could have seen his display. Did you take
any pics?

BillsGridironGreats · July 29, 2005 12:53PM

Sorry man, no pics, but he is the man when it comes to Mexican. He also has a lot of the other non-topps stuff I am always looking for, hope to start an account with him soon. I bought a Casper, Griese, Csonka, Simpson and a Carmichael from him to finish or improve my player sets. He had some really nice stuff. He want $$500 or $600 for the SGC paytons. They were very nice. I already have a nice centered Payton with the dreaded roller marks. that will get me a 5 for sure. I went over a bunch of stuff i've learned from PSA grading, so hopefully we helped each other out. I need to get with him on the really hard ones, but at $9 for a well printed and $200 for a short-printed common. I may need to refinance the house to complete the set.

zef204 · July 29, 2005 2:09PM

I went today for a few hours and picked up only a few packs. I saw the 1971 fb vending and the guy wanted $4k for it. No thank you. Just an FYI if anyone else was intrigued when gaspipe said he saw one there that was "expensive". I think $4k is outrageous. You could probably get 300 cards by buying 71 racks when you see them(and there were a few there that I saw) for less than $4k and have 300 better conditioned cards than the 500 the vending box would give you.

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