Canadian Maple Leafs - POP REPORT

TheRock

Does anyone have the POP numbers for the following coins since there is NO offical PCGS POP REPORT available?

Silver One Ounce Maple Leafs (1988 to date)

Privy Marked Silver Maples (1998 to date)

Zodiac Privy Marked Silver Maples (2004)

Thanks.

TheRock

Come on guys, someone has to collect these?

SYRACUSIAN

Most Darksiders despise pop reports, let alone bullion pop reports. We're a strange group, but welcome and I hope someone answers your question soon.

TheRock

OK, now you have me curious. May I ask why you despise POP Reports and especially Bullion POP Reports?

Is bullion BAD?

I have found them very useful for my Lincoln collections. They give me a good perspective on which coins are harder to find and grade in High Quality. Forget the registry, I just would like to know which coins demand a higher level of hunting. Because of the POP Report, you can tell by the POP count listed which coins are harder to find. An example is the 1961, 62 and 69 PROOF Lincolns. The 69's are known for chatter in the fields, thus making them very hard to find in a high grade.

AlaBill

Does PCGS publish population reports on foreign coins?
They are not in my current book.

TheRock

No they don't. That is the problem. The only way to know what they are is to either register a set or know someone that has one registered. Since there are only 3 sets registered and Walt has his closed, you can't find out. That's why I'm asking if anyone knows.

SYRACUSIAN

<< <i>OK, now you have me curious. May I ask why you despise POP Reports and especially Bullion POP Reports?

Is bullion BAD?

I have found them very useful for my Lincoln collections. They give me a good perspective on which coins are harder to find and grade in High Quality. Forget the registry, I just would like to know which coins demand a higher level of hunting. Because of the POP Report, you can tell by the POP count listed which coins are harder to find. An example is the 1961, 62 and 69 PROOF Lincolns. The 69's are known for chatter in the fields, thus making them very hard to find in a high grade. >>






Forgive me, I did not mean to sound sarcastic, and maybe the word despise was inappropriate. But by reading your question and the second post, I couldn't help but think that many Darksiders are not interested at all in slabs and grades, let alone pop reports. It's just the nature of the Darkside, where the quantity and the variety is so big that not many collectors get as deep into a series as knowing which years are known for chatter in the fields.Also, PCGS doesn't publish foreign pop reports, except for Canada I think. Bullion is certainly not bad. Stick around and you might get to see one of those weekend threads were we all take one side or the other on the subject and then we all make friends again. I told you, we're a strange group.

MadMarty

I like slabs!

ajaan

I like slabs also.

SYRACUSIAN

Did I say I don't? In percentage terms, I probably have more slabbed coins than anybody else here. But I still don't know the answer to the question that's been asked, postcount cheaters.

MacCrimmon

<< <i>Also, PCGS doesn't publish foreign pop reports, except for Canada I think..... >>

While they don't "publish" in a strict sense, the POP numbers are there if you can divine a "lookup no.".

A logical guess is they might be on the back end of the modern silver dollars, e.g., from Tony's list in the Can Registry you find the number 32494, which reveals the follwoing partial list.....

PCGS No: 32494
Date: 1989
Denom: $5
Variety: Maple Leaf/Ag
Desig: MS

66: 4
67: x
68: 1

Total: x

You'll need to subscribe to this service to get the complete results........there are your tools, Grasshopper......go to work.

ajaan

<< <i>postcount cheaters. >>


Hey, I resemble that remark!

TheRock

MacCrimmon, well I went and did it. I spent the last 4 hours racking my brain on Coin numbers as you told me I could do. Out of the total-46 coins needed for all 3 sets, I managed to get all but 12. Man my fingers hurt. So, with out keying in another 100,000 strokes, now what do I do? Got anymore suggestions?

newsman

<< <i>Did I say I don't? In percentage terms, I probably have more slabbed coins than anybody else here. But I still don't know the answer to the question that's been asked, postcount cheaters. >>



+1

Seriously, I think it's past time for PCGS to publish world coin pop reports. Like it or not, slabbing has already affected the market for some coins, and we need all the information we can get to keep up with those changes.

TheRock

I posted the very same thing last night on the Q & A for DH. We'll see if he answers.

MacCrimmon

Rock,

Good Job! It is possible those 12 don't exist, i.e., no coins have been submitted for that year/type. Essentially, every possible coin has a serial no. reserved, but I've found they don't necessarily follow logical patterns, especially when jumping from MS to PF/SP issues.

Newsy, it wouldn't be much of a problem for a good programmer to write an algorithm to display those World POPs in a full page format; none at all.....PRIORITIES! PRIORITIES!

newsman

<< <i>it wouldn't be much of a problem for a good programmer >>



That's the problem. I'm not a programmer.

TheRock

By the way, here is something new I found while keying in all those numbers.

Silver One Ounce Maple Leafs (Maple Leaf/AG's)

I found that there is a number for the following: What is this?
- Maple Leaf/AG's (Hmmm)
- Maple Leaf/AU's (Hmmm)
- Maple Leaf/PT's (Hmmm)
- Maple Leaf/PR's (PROOF I know)

MacCrimmon

AG means Silver, AU means Gold, and PT means Platinum.

TheRock

Damn your good. I'm getting edjumacated now. Thanks my friend.

trozau

If you have slabbed maple leaf coins for the years you want information for (or know of a way to get slab insert information of a coin), just email PCGS and ask for the pop info by providing them with the coin number on the slab. They will run a query against their data base and provide you with the pop report breakdown for all the coin numbers you can provide. At least that is how I did it for some slabbed UK gold coins that I have.

TheRock

I wish it was that easy for me. I DO NOT have the coins slabbed that I need the information for. I have a PCGS membership, so I can look up the coins in the POP Report and get what I need, but I don't have the coins. Major Problem.

Here is what I need: Coin Number for the following:

1988 Maple Leaf/AG
1993 Maple Leaf/AG
1997 Maple Leaf/AG
1999-2000 Maple Leaf/AG
2003 Maple Leaf/AG

2004 Privy D-Day
2004 Privy Desjardins

2004 ARIES
2004 TAURUS
2004 GEMINI
2004 CANCER
2004 VIRGO
2004 LIBRA
2004 SCORPIO
2004 SAGITTARIUS
2004 AQUARIUS
2004 PISCES

trozau

Try eBay. Search for the year, maple leaf and PCGS and maybe you can get coin numbers off of listing photos. Just an idea.

TheRock

Great idea, but, I tried EBAY, Heritage, TT, Yahoo, Google and about a half dozen more to get ZERO. But, the good news is that it sounds like Walt is going to help me out. We'll see. It was my first PM to him and he seems like a decent guy. My reason for these is very simple, it help me save money when buying RAW coins.

It's just to have the information on hand so I know how hard PCGS grades particular coins. An example would be if the coin grades 17-MS65, 2-MS68, 1-MS69, then I know that when I'm looking for that particular coin that they are harder to come by and I should not waist my money on looking for a 65-66, I should keep hunting for a raw coin that would make it to the 67-69 mark.

Another example is one that has plagued me for 2 years now on my Lincolns. The 1969-S is well known for having chatter in the fields. Because of this the POP is very low in a 68-69.

The POP just helps me better understand which years have better coins in them and which do not. That is all.

trozau

Sounds like a plan! Good luck with getting the info and the hunt!

TheRock

Thanks my friend.

XXX

Here's what I came up with, hope it helps........................

1988 32496 1988 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1989 32494 1989 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1990 1003411 1990 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1991 1003412 1991 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1992 1003413 1992 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1993 32498 1993 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1994 1003414 1994 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1995 1003415 1995 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1996 1003416 1996 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1997 34029 1997 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1998 34184 1998 $5 Maple leaf/Ag
1999 34238 1999 $5 Maple Leaf/Ag
1999-2000 34260 1999-2000 $5 ML Fireworks
2000 1009335 2000 $5 ML Fireworks
2001 1003427 2001 $5 ML Autumn
2002 1003432 2002 $5 ML Spring
2003 1009698 2003 $5 ML Summer
2004 1012465 2004 $5 ML Red Maple



1998 Titantic 1003418 1998 $5 ML Titanic
1998 Tiger 1003419 1998 $5 ML Tiger
1998 RCMP 1003420 1998 $5 ML RCMP
1998 90th Anniversary 1003421 1998 $5 ML 90th Anniversary
1999 Rabbit 1003422 1999 $5 ML Rabbit
1999-2000 Fireworks 0 34260 1999-2000 $5 ML Fireworks
2000 Millennium 1009335 2000 $5 ML Fireworks
2000 Dragon 1003423 2000 $5 ML Dragon
2000 Expo Hanover 1003424 2000 $5 ML Expo
2001 Snake 1003425 2001 $5 ML Snake
2002 Horse 1009240 2002 $5 ML Horse
2003 Sheep 1009239 2003 $5 ML Sheep
2004 Monkey 1009238 2004 $5 ML Monkey
2004 D-Day 1012749 2004 $5 ML D-Day
2004 Desjardins 1012750 2004 $5 ML Desjardins


ARIES 1012758 2004 $5 ML Aries
TAURUS 1012759 2004 $5 ML Taurus
GEMINI 1012760 2004 $5 ML Gemini
CANCER 1012761 2004 $5 ML Cancer
LEO 1011952 2004 $5 ML Leo
VIRGO 1012762 2004 $5 ML Virgo
LIBRA 1012763 2004 $5 ML Libra
SCORPIO 1012764 2004 $5 ML Scorpio
SAGITTARIUS 1012765 2004 $5 ML Sagittarius
CAPRICORN 1011953 2004 $5 ML Capricorn
AQUARIUS 1012756 2004 $5 ML Aquarius
PISCES 1012757 2004 $5 ML Pisces

TheRock

Thanks Walt. Your the best.

Just so everyone knows, here is the coin # for the 2005 Maple Leaf/AG
#1011954

XXX

Now Rock, please send me all top pops of the above stated (3) series. Thanks you.........

TheRock

You bet, they are on the way. What has got me curious is that there is NO coin number for the following Maple Leaf/AG

1999-2000
and
2003

I see that there is a 1999-2000 (Fireworks) and a 2003 (Summer) but no just plain old Maple Leaf/AG

Specifically on the 2003, there is a 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004 and I just posted the 2005. I wonder if no one has ever submitted a 2003?



Here is the 2000-2005 Maple Leaf/AG
2000 - #34239
2001 - #1003417
2002 - #1001750
2004 - #1009233
2005 - #1011954