Could Joe Orlando of had something to do with this? We all know how Pacific lost its license, did DLP do the same thing????
For collectors this is bad, Playoff had put out some very nice products. This will only make Topps and UD feel like they can cut more corners. I predict that DLP will be out of business this time next year, they can't stand on football alone!
Related to your Pacific question. In doing a google search I found this article. In a subsequent article it indicate Pacific elected not to renew the license.
<< <i>Does anyone else have hope that maybe the modern card market will come back to its senses? Maybe the worst of the glut is overwith?
I read some articles related to the Fleer bankruptcy that said MLB could start cutting back on the number of licenses issued. >>
Got a long ways to go than just the companies folding, esp when one company releases dozens (hundreds?) of variations on the same theme each and every year.
I agree. I'd like to see each company limited to 2 or 3 releases. Maybe a premium, middle, and economy line. Unlike Upper Deck which has a few hundred sets each year.
Steve and MT beat me to it. But even then-- what's the point of limiting releases? The current market evolved this way for a reason; namely, because people got sick of buying mass produced cards. You limit Topps to two issues, for example, and now you're left with 1,000,000 RC's of the flavor of the month. Does anyone want to go back to that?
Some people think the modern market is 'too confusing'. Nonsense. Simply pick a couple sets that you find attractive, and buy those cards. You don't have to know the ins and outs of every issue to enjoy buying modern cards.
I really like Donruss baseball. Sad to see them go. I started to collect heavy in 1992 and bought a lot of Donruss that year. Which was way over produced. But those inserts and Diamond Kings kept me going. Should have bought Leaf that year, but I was new to the hobbie and didn't know. Now I actually look at the back of packs to see the odds of getting things before I buy. I just hope that the companies that do stay around don't start to over produce too to make up for the slack.
Funny how it might be sad to see Fleer and Donruss go at the same time when alot of us collect mainly from a time when Topps was the only game in town.
I guess this was bound to happen. The market could never sustain the staggering amount of product being put out each year, and the increasing cost of producing and buying "premium" packs and boxes with cut autos and GU snippets. What was next, Babe Ruth's game-used underwear? Bristles from Mickey Mantle's toothbrush?
Like the 750-pound man, carrying all that excess weight was bound to result in a heart attack eventually. I'm sorry two major players are casualties in the same year, but we can hope a more sensible array of products will result.
The surviving card makers surely will see that just because they CAN create 500 swatch cards out of every pair of Orlando Cepeda game pants they find, it doesn't mean they SHOULD. And that just because Jose Canseco and Willie McGee are willing to sit down and sign thousands of cards to help fill the various sets, it doesn't mean they should LET them. And that 10,000,000 cards is still 10,000,000 cards, whether its 10 major sets each year or 100 small ones.
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For collectors this is bad, Playoff had put out some very nice products. This will only make Topps and UD feel like they can cut more
corners. I predict that DLP will be out of business this time next year, they can't stand on football alone!
JS
I like the competition to keep these guys on their toes! Hopefully someone will pick up the license.
Topps best watch it - guys like us spend a lot of money - they lose us and they'll be looking for a new line of work.
mike
Shane
Related to your Pacific question. In doing a google search I found this article. In a subsequent article it indicate Pacific elected not to renew the license.
Collecting Tony Perez PSA and Rookie Baseball PSA
I read some articles related to the Fleer bankruptcy that said MLB could start cutting back on the number of licenses issued.
I agree that Donruss has put out some good product but I feel that Topps is the leader right now and will only get stronger.
Sure they have some "down and dirty" sets but the pulls are much better and the prices are going up.
Topps Finest Basketball right now is a great series and going strong.
Topps 50th Anniversary FB came out today and is supposed to be fantastic. I have three cases coming in.
Sure Upper Deck has the higher dollar pulls and is much fancier but you pay for it too.
Try finding a premium Upper Deck product that you can buy for $400 a case in presell and get what you expected.
I say "Bring on the Bowman Chrome and Topps Turkey Red!"
<< <i>Does anyone else have hope that maybe the modern card market will come back to its senses? Maybe the worst of the glut is overwith?
I read some articles related to the Fleer bankruptcy that said MLB could start cutting back on the number of licenses issued. >>
There is the new MLB policy about draft/prospect/rookie cards, which I have yet to figure out.
This is going to make next year's baseball issues interesting.
<< <i>Does anyone else have hope that maybe the modern card market will come back to its senses? Maybe the worst of the glut is overwith?
I read some articles related to the Fleer bankruptcy that said MLB could start cutting back on the number of licenses issued. >>
Got a long ways to go than just the companies folding, esp when one company releases dozens (hundreds?) of variations on the same theme each and every year.
Some people think the modern market is 'too confusing'. Nonsense. Simply pick a couple sets that you find attractive, and buy those cards. You don't have to know the ins and outs of every issue to enjoy buying modern cards.
that year. Which was way over produced. But those inserts and Diamond Kings kept me going. Should have
bought Leaf that year, but I was new to the hobbie and didn't know. Now I actually look at the back of packs to
see the odds of getting things before I buy. I just hope that the companies that do stay around don't start to
over produce too to make up for the slack.
Sad news. And, JS is probably right - how can they survive on just football products? Doesn't look good at all.
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Like the 750-pound man, carrying all that excess weight was bound to result in a heart attack eventually. I'm sorry two major players are casualties in the same year, but we can hope a more sensible array of products will result.
The surviving card makers surely will see that just because they CAN create 500 swatch cards out of every pair of Orlando Cepeda game pants they find, it doesn't mean they SHOULD. And that just because Jose Canseco and Willie McGee are willing to sit down and sign thousands of cards to help fill the various sets, it doesn't mean they should LET them. And that 10,000,000 cards is still 10,000,000 cards, whether its 10 major sets each year or 100 small ones.