Tiger Woods RC's undervalued/overvalued?
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Just noticed on ebay woods SPA RC graded psa 10 selling (so far) for less than it was even BEFORE he won the british open. I have noticed this card has drifted downwards for quite a while. I would like to buy one. Should I buy one now and risk a possible post-open surge in price or wait a while and hope I can get it more cheaply?
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Just my two cents.
Dave
Collector of Vintage Golf cards! Let me know what you might have.
isn't any drama anymore. Back in 2001 there was Sergio, and Duval and Goosen, but those guys just haven't gotten it done. When
Tiger is on no one can beat him, when he isn't on, then who ever happens to be playing well that week wins, and that is boring
for the sport.
These are going fast into private collections, the more time you wait the less there will be out there, and if there is a surge in
demand, then you could be paying a lot more later
Kevin
be looking for his SPA card and those are just drying up, so they will probably go up in the future
Kevin
So, if there is a card from the 90's of Woods, and he had already turned pro and won a Masters before 2001, then in what meaningful sense can any card from 2001 be called a "rookie" card? Are there no cards of Woods as a pro until 2001? Why does that distinction matter - Mark McGwire's 1985 Topps card is his rookie card, and he wasn't a pro yet? Does the SI Kids card not "count", for some reason? Somebody 'splain this to me, please.
<< <i>So, if there is a card from the 90's of Woods, and he had already turned pro and won a Masters before 2001, then in what meaningful sense can any card from 2001 be called a "rookie" card? >>
Same reason the 1981 Donruss is considered Jack Nicklaus' RC: Beckett says so. According to Beckett, an RC must have been distributed in pack form in a comprehensive set. Magazine inserts (SI Kids) and card distributed in set form (those black bordered Masters cards) do not count.
Not saying I agree with this, but that's their definition.
BOTR
ps) stick to the 1997 GSV card for 'rookie' appeal.
And Bill, remind me never to play golf with you.
Look at Peyton - he has broken and is breaking records left and right, but his cards are worth about the same, or less than when they first hit the market in 1998. Even if he wins Super Bowls, his cards will basically maintain their values. If he just puts up spectacular numbers, and not superman numbers, his cards will go down.
Tiger is unparalleled and a worldwide icon. He needed to win a string of majors just for his SP to maintain its 1200 price tag. When his game took the 3 year hit, his SP sagged to about 800. He was still the #1 player in the world for most of this time!
If he wins 5 more majors in a row, his card will return back to the 1200 level, but what are the odds of 5 in a row? Astronomical. He will hit a low point again perhaps in a few years and his card will return to 800 or less. It's a fact.
Let's make a deal...
greg
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that are now double that. Guys like Manning and Vick are still very high but are at the edge, much like Brady stuff was 3 years ago. If these
guys go to or even win the SB, then you will see an explosion.
As far as the Tiger Woods SPA rookie card, which is what we are talking about here, I still think that supply won't keep up with demand. UD
has pretty much controled the golf market for several years now, but has had a hard time keeping stuff fresh. There just isn't a demand
for new golf rookies these days, and with no one else doing anything, except maybe Vijay (minus from UD products), people are just not
into golf products.
I think there needs to be some new intrest in golf before he really see the Tiger RC AU take off. I doubt it will even fall back to 800
if Tiger continues to do what he is doing.
JS
Dave
Collector of Vintage Golf cards! Let me know what you might have.
I couldn't agree more. In the NFL it's all about winning Super Bowls-- or at least getting to them. I don't think there is a single NFL player who's a hobby force that didn't at least play in a SB (I'm only factoring in retired players here). Barry Sanders, I suppose, would be the exception. But overall you don't see NFL equivalents to Ernie Banks; guys who had fantastic careers and still get hobby recognition even though they never played in the Big One.
If Manning gets to the SB his cards will boom again. And ditto for Vick. The current prices for their issues will not withstand two solid weeks of global media adoration.
This, incidentally, is why I avoid cards for guys like Carson Palmer. Sure, he's a great talent. But look at the team he plays for. And while anything can happen in the NFL it's hard to imagine a team run as poorly as the Bengals making multiple SB runs. Same goes for Harrington and Larry Fitzgerald. In baseball, the golden rule is 'don't buy cards of pitchers'. In the NFL it's 'don't buy cards of players who are languishing with second tier organizations'.
John Barnes
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
That may be true but today most rookie cards have a print run of only 50-100 cards. Needless to say that will always keep supply in
check. If anything, modern cards will become even more valuable as eventually some of these guys will be greats.
can you imagine a Mantle rookie with a print run of 100??
JS
<< <i>And Bill, remind me never to play golf with you. >>
Don't worry Steve.......I'd never hit the ball high enough to nut you.
BOTR
Price Realized: $430.07