Any idea on what this ends at?

halosfan

Nap Lajoie PSA 9
Very tempting!

stevek

Wow - No idea what it will end at. What a beauty!

Stone193

<< <i>Any idea on what this ends at? >>


More money than I could ever afford!

Great card!

mike

WinPitcher

Not to pee on a parade but don't many folks think that any old card like that was over sized and thus trimmed? hard for me to think that an almost 100 year old card can be in that high of a grade w/o help. ?

sd

jrdolan

The seller, BMW, has certainly been the subject (and a participant) of much heated discussion on various forums.

But I'm trying not to let that spoil my appreciation of that lovely 1911 Napster.

Stone193

<< <i>Not to pee on a parade but don't many folks think that any old card like that was over sized and thus trimmed? hard for me to think that an almost 100 year old card can be in that high of a grade w/o help. ?

sd >>


Steve
I know that's the word on the street about the Wagner 8 but I do know there were a couple a major finds back in the 90s. One had to do with a guy who had pulled the cards out of the production line and took them home - so they never got into packs and were relatively perfect. The other, was a boatload that was found in a dry barn inside an old car in boxes - that's what I was told by a dealer back in 92 at the National.

But then again, can you trust anyone?
Thank God I'm a Kuntry Boy!

rbdjr1

I have tobbaco card sets from the early 1900s (some of the cards are mint!). Most are not baseball, but my point is; ...yes it is quite probable for mint examples to exist, my guess is not as many baseball subjects, compared to all the various subjects out there (i.e., Actors, Govenors, Indian Tribes, Flags, Rivers and Lakes, Ships, Flowers, Castles, Authors, Jockeys, etc. ...you name it!).

What a beautiful card!

Does anyone else think a monster card like this would bring more $$$$$ consigned to a major auction house?

rbd

Stone193

<< <i>I have tobbaco card sets from the early 1900s (some of the cards are mint!). Most are not baseball, but my point is; ...yes it is quite probable for mint examples to exist, my guess is not as many baseball subjects, compared to all the various subjects out there (i.e., Actors, Govenors, Indian Tribes, Flags, Rivers and Lakes, Ships, Flowers, Castles, Authors, Jockeys, etc. ...you name it!).

What a beautiful card!

Does anyone else think a monster card like this would bring more $$$$$ consigned to a major auction house?

rbd >>


rbd
Great question...I wonder that too.

Some ideas - The seller will save money since more of the money goes into his hands and not the auction house. And he will get his money faster if that were an issue.

On the tobacco cards that are nonsport turn of the century - I agree, I have some sets that are scary perfect from England like Gallagher and Cavander. But, I wonder if the sets were mail in premiums and not in the packs which would affect the condition?

mike

Stingray

Wasn't there a find of unopened cigarett packs from that era, cards still in them sometime in the 1990s?

Stingray

helionaut

There were at least a couple finds of Piedmont packs. One dealer found a single pack in an antique shop for $5, IIRC. But there was a full box of 12 or so packs found and auctioned. I don't think it yielded anything really tremendous, and maybe not even all baseball cards. While I am also dubious of such an old item being in such condition, I just always think there's got to be some like that out there somewhere, even if there's only 1 or 2. For a long time, I didn't even know T-206s were supposed to have corners. I never saw any that weren't completely beveled.

I think it'll end at $15,001. But I have to say it. I do think Wentz is losing money by not having the card in a SGC holder, though. After all, they are the BEST, right?

studentT206

I'd wager there is no way this card ends less than $20K. Once a T206 HOFER reaches a grade of 6 and sometimes 5 you can throw the SMR price out the window. A 9 and who knows? If I am wrong I would say that it is because there are many set registry poeple collecting in 6-7 grade and the elite already have 8-9 caliber cards. Of course there's the element of the vintage investor, possible negating the oversize trim factor. I would still say in the $25K range. I just wish my 5 was this nice and in a PSA holder.

Damian

mercurynut

I can't wait to see the final price on this one!

phreakydancin

Why doesn't the flip specify the set name? All the T206's I've seen in PSA holders say "T206" on the flip.

Carew29

Hey don't forget guys, House takes a cut from the buyer and the seller. Good reason for ebay.

Stone193

<< <i>Wasn't there a find of unopened cigarett packs from that era, cards still in them sometime in the 1990s?

Stingray >>


Sting
Anything found in packs - would pale in comparison to the "find" of backdoor cards from a factory worker.

Also, many unopened packs that you see on ebay may contain other than baseball or no card at all.

To be assured that the unopened pack contains a baseball card requires that the "tax stamp" on the package, the factory number, district number and state of production all have to correspond.

The window of opportunity for a card correspond with the years 1909-1911. The Sweet Caporal "find" of over 500 packs have a post-1916 tax stamp date.

The T206 cards from 1909-11 were produced in three series (150, 350, 460) - well over 500 different cards were issued and there are a total of sixteen different brands of cigarettes and tobacco.

The most common is Piedmont (half all cards produced) - all series included - 150, 350 and 450 were all produced at Factory #25, 2nd District of VA. However, 350 and 460 series cards also appear with a different back, produced at Factory #42, 4th District of NC.

So you see, buying an unopened pack and being assured there's a baseball card in there is tricky.

Phreaky
If you are talking about putting the tobacco company on the flip along with the T206 ID? Good question.
Altho, and argumentatively, they would say just turn the holder around?LOL

mike