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What is the limit that you will spend-

if you see a raw coin that you need for your registry set on an internet auction. The seller has a return policy of seven days, but that doesnt matter because you cant get it back from PCGS/NGC that quick.
It's a very expensive coin and if it doesnt grade, gets the bodybag your out big bucks.
Basically what would you gamble?

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  • ellewoodellewood Posts: 1,750
    I don't gamble anymore. I learned my lesson the hard way...buying raw off of eBay and trying to make a coin. 9 times out of 10, it's easier to buy it slabbed than making it yourself. I do have a bunch of lincolns in at PCGS as we speak...however they are lincolns that I got from a very trusted and experienced board member here.

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  • ellewood,
    Sounds like good advice, I got to thinking after my initial post - the guy that's selling this coin also has alot of graded (slabbed) coins that he's selling. If you could have a coin graded and double or triple it's resale value, wouldnt he have already done it?
  • I would not even buy the raw coin, I have done this in the past and got burned, Wait for a pcgs slabbed coin to come along
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  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293
    My limit on Ebay is $75. My limit so far at live auctions, $1700.
    morgannut2
  • I learned my lesson a long time ago as far as eBay is concerned.
    Generally I pass on raw coins unless the seller is somebody I feel I can trust 100%.
    I buy only certified now.
    Hypothetically I would buy a raw coin from Dave Bowers and his colleagues or from JJ Teaparty to name a couple because my experience has shown me that there are still companies and people that can be trusted.
    I don't know, however, whether either one sells raw coins any more.
    I had a certain number of raw coins as duplicates and I had them certified by PCGS, NGC or ANACS.
    While Raw allows you to "see" the rim while "slabbed" does not, the risks in today's world are just too high.
    cho10

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd go "all in" for the right coin.
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  • imageDavid Bowers has a policy concerning raw coins : Never pay more than $ 100.00 for a coin that is not slabbed. Good advice in my opinion.
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>imageDavid Bowers has a policy concerning raw coins : Never pay more than $ 100.00 for a coin that is not slabbed. Good advice in my opinion. >>



    You must be referring to Dave Bowers the entymologist, not Q. David Bowers the numismatist.

    As for me, I'm with Andy - I would pay pretty much whatever it took to acquire the right raw coin.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bought the Vermeule 1873-CC trade dollar for $75k raw from a Stacks sale. It's now in a 65 holder and worth double that amount. Same with the Amon Carter 1874-CC except it was $55k for an eventual MS66.

    Of course, they don't all grade out - you pays your money and you takes your chances.
  • imageNo I Am referring to Q. David Bowers. He has written about paying no more than $ 100.00 for a raw coin, several times.
    The bottom line is : It's your money, also your risk ! If anyone buys enough raw coins on ebay, they are asking to be taken advantage of, and that will happen, sooner or later !
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've done this I think three times, always with up-front disclosure to and blessing from the seller before even bidding (always sellers whom I knew and had done business with before.)

    If memory serves, two were at or slightly above $2,000 each and the other was something over $1,000.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No I Am referring to Q. David Bowers. He has written about paying no more than $ 100.00 for a raw coin, several times.

    Perhaps he is talking about sight-unseen transactions. Then, this comment would make sense to me.
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