interesting post on net 54 re: grading

BigtimeBowmanfan

Hey,

I came across this post while going through the pre war board. I thought it was very well written and would love to see more of this kind of unbiased testing done.

RipublicaninMass

I couldn't agree more!

Stingray

Link to this post?


Stingray

BigtimeBowmanfan

link

Stingray

It appears that there are a lot of cards that PSA is saying are trimmed. Is there something that they are looking at differently than the other grading companies.


Stingray

cavalier

I think PSA is straight looking at size and nothing else -- if the card measures short then it must be trimmed.

I worked for Southern Cards back during the early 90's during the Southern T206 find -- literally every PSA 9 t206 card in existence came from that find. A good portion of the Harris collection came from that find. To put it in perspective we sold a Walter Johnson portrait for 10xBeckett -- ungraded!! This was really before grading was even a pimple. The collection contained close to 1000 T206 cards that literally were as fresh as 2005 Topps.

But knowing where several cards are and in whose collections they reside, I know for a fact that PSA returned some of those cards as trimmed -- I assume simply because they measured short - which they do. On another note - several of these cards were subsequently encapsulated by SGC, and all grade 92 or better.


A bunch of new stuff that keeps me in business looking for another Holy Grail

Knuckles

SGC doesn't grade trimmed cards so are they just better educated when it comes to some years of vintage cards varying in size for whatever reason..?

Cubfan

Nice to see a post from our old buddy Vargha.

BigtimeBowmanfan

But if thats the case ( nonuniform size ) than why not make allowance's for this ? Just as when you trust a company to grade accuratly......... You also should expect that they won't tell you your card is altered if it's not. I understand nobody's perfect but if this is a known problem than...............?

Carew29

I think all three companies should be called out on the mat at the National. Call it the G3 Summit.

Stone193

<< <i> worked for Southern Cards back during the early 90's during the Southern T206 find >>


Cav
Back in 1992, at the National in Atlanta, a few big dealers were loaded with T206s from a major find - one dealer said they were found in a dry barn by the boatload. Where was the find you are referring. I want to say the dealer said the barn was in Pa.?

mike

Stone193

Scott
Thanx for the link.

Unfortunately, IMO, when the smoke clears, we rarely learn anything concrete from these "experiments" since they are not statistically significant.

How the guy decided that GAI was client favored by that submission is beyond me?

As Vargha had humorously alluded - you have to do a decent population to create a statistical survey that will satisfy all the criteria of proper handling so that the conclusions will be statistically significant.

Watch out for SGC - they are on the move this year - they will be looking for a niche of collectors who like their holders, service etc. and are interested in authenticity and preservation. NOT resale - then, of course, PSA will be the way to go.

mike