1964 OPC Beatles Movie?

zef204

Has anyone heard of this set? I just bought it off a Canadian seller on eBay and I cannot find any information that this set even exists! All 55 cards are blank backed and they are the same cards as the Topps Movie set.

Any info you could give would be great. If these are in fact authentic from 1964 there are plenty of PSA 9's in the bunch.

Linky

WinPitcher

Sorry Zef I have no idea. Morellman might though. In any event for the price you paid it was well worth a shot. Im not sure though if PSA will grade a blank bank unless it was intended to be. The seller gave me the impression that they were intended to have backs. Id worry about that .

SD

MorrellMan

I don't know a whole lot about this particular Beatle set; I have the color and the 3 series of B&W, but I haven't yet gotten into the HDN set. That being said, I think you got a good deal on this set. My concern is how does the seller know these are OPC if the backs are blank? There is no type on the front and there is seemingly no type on the back. The standard issue set has some text superimposed over a tripod-type movie camera. I think Steve is right - you may have a limited test run or employee test run but PSA wouldn't grade them. I thing the key question is: Was the OPC set issue with blank backs? I doubt it, but I don't know. I'd be suspicious of any Topps or OPC card that doesn't have their name on it anywhere. Give us more info when you receive the set.

gregmo32

I think I bought this same set. Any more info people could give would certainly be nice. When I received the cards, the condition is what concerned me the most. Was that the same for you?

kingraider75

are the cards standard baseball card size? Or close to it? Maybe they are promotional cards, but not a trading card set?

zef204

This is what the seller said to me:



<< <i>What I know about these, is that I purchased them from a person with a connection to OPC until 1986.
I asked him for a history of them and he was quite tight lipped. So after i took them to a local printer and he examined them and told me they were not copies, you can tell by looking at them under magnification, but he could not say when they were printed. He suggested that maybe someone had access to negatives and could have printed them after the original run in the 1960's , but there was no way to tell for sure, hope this helps >>




These cards would fetch some 9's for sure, but PSA will not grade them.

This is what I sent to them:



<< <i>I have a question about some cards that I want to submit. They were sold to me as 1964 OPC Beatle’s Movie cards. I see that in your Pop report you recognize that set. My concern is that these are blank backs and the seller told me that was how the OPC version of this set was that was distributed in Canada. These cards are in awesome condition and I would like to send in the majority of the 55 cards for grading, however I want to be sure that they will not be a “Not Graded” casualty. I have had a Topps FB card blank back sent back to me as a factory mistake (or something) and I just want to be sure that if I spend the time and effort that these cards will in fact be graded. >>



An this was their response



<< <i>Thank you for contacting PSA Customer Service. Unfortunately, we cannot grade your cards as they are factory errors that we do not recognize. The correct set comes with printing on the back. Please do not hesitate to contact Customer Service via e-mail or by phone, 1-800-325-1121, should you have any further questions or concerns. >>



I thought they may grade them because the enitre set is blank backs, whereas a factory error would be a random card.

Any thoughts?

WinPitcher

whereas a factory error would be a random card

in most cases it would be an amount of cards equal to at least 1 sheet. sheets vary but the most usually is 132. they can have dbl and triple print cards too. but usually the cards on a sheet equal 132.

In cases where a set is say 66 cards. The set will be printed 2x on the sheet.

your cards if legit are cut from a blanked back sheet and it is quite possible that a set could be found like thist. Do you notice any ruff cuts? cards cut at the OPC factory are notorious for that.

sd

WinPitcher

I asked him for a history of them and he was quite tight lipped.


...he was quite tight lipped....that is another way of saying....they fell off a truck,or they (in most case) went out the back door.


my bet is your cards are legit, only ungradeable as the set is found with backs.....i think a puzzle back if not mistaken.


sd

zef204

No, the cards are not rough cut. They are as smooth as a baby's ***. I have a bunch of OPC baseball and the card stock and cut of these is nothiung like what I have seen with OPC's. I don't understand why PSA doesn't grade blank backs??? I know Beckett does, or at least did when I had some 79 FB's graded by them 3 or 4 years ago.

Graded or not the set still is beautiful

WinPitcher

Graded or not the set still is beautiful


I agree, did you ask them if they would at least authenticate them? and maybe slab that with just the AUTH designation?


I wonder if they would do a Mantle or some other star that was found in a pack as a blank back? doubtful.


if you have your heart set on getting them slabbed try SGC or Gai perhaps. In any event I agree the set is nice with or w/o slabs.

SD

Cubfan

I think I may have found the source of your cards

Source of Cards ?

As noted, its only the "photo side" of the cards (meaning there was a text side) and is a "copy of the original proof layout". The ad even suggests how nice the cards would look if professionally cut.

These "posters" have been on ebay for a couple of years and there is usually one on there at all times.

At $15 a pop, it seems that this is just a nicely done reprint of the picture side of the cards, not authentic factory errors of legitimate authentic cards as was noted in the set auction.

All OPC Beatles cards I have ever seen have printing on the back.

zef204

That very well could be.

I doubt this will be the last time I get taken!