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What are some of the tougher cards to get in 8 and up in modern cards. I am considering takling this, but I just wanted some opinions about modern, as I know vintage is tough.
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  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    I'm relatively new to the set (currency #18 - Greg Montieth's Collection) but I have found the 72's, 73's, 74's, 77's, Newsome, Young and Dan Hampton to be the toughest. Within the 72's, Little is tough to find centered as is Yary and Joiner. The Staubach is fairly tough also. The only card I own with a qualifier is a PSA 8OC Staubach rookie. It will be a while before I upgrade to a straight PSA 8.

    For whatever reason, the 77's are tough to find for me. I currently own nice Largent and Webster PSA 8 rookies, but the Haynes, Selmon and Casper are tough to find. PSA 9's are crazy - a Casper sold several months ago for $400+. Unopened 1977 material is tough to find and expensive.

    The 1973's aren't easy either, with Franco and Ham being rather expensive in PSA 8 and the others (Shell, Dierdor and Langer) moderately to tough to find. I have a nice PSA 8 Langer that I picked up for $30 and change, and have seen Shell and Dierdorf on occasion in the $40 to $50+ range in 8. One problem you run into are that the Steeler rookies are especially competitive (with the All time Steeler registry members) and you have multiple bidders for any nice 8's that come up for sale.

    I'd start out slow, and collect from the 80's and work your way back. Pick up a few 70's here and there as they come up for sale at a decent price. I tend to be very picky on centering, so I may wait out several auctions until a nice one is for sale. Most of the 80's rookies are plentiful (except Steve Young - another toughie) in PSA 8 and even PSA 9 and can be had relatively cheap.

    I hope that helps - and it's nice to meet another HOF rookie enthusiast. I've been collecting the set for a year now and have learned a lot about the older players.... If you ever have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. If you want to ask an expert (and great guy) shoot JasP24 an e-mail. He's #2 behind MOSH.

    Good luck.

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    zef204, you couldn't pick a better set to collect! I've been collecting these PSA HOF RC's for around 6 years now, and most have doubled if not tripled in value...Plus, if you're a big football fan like me, you cant beat having rookie cards of the all-time great players...

    In response to your questing, the best way to figure out which cards are tough to find is to check the POP report. The lower the pop, the harder to find (obviously), and the more you're going to have to pay. There are also a few that arent low pop that for whatever reason rarely show up for sale.

    Here's a list, working backwards of the toughest to find modern cards from the set...
    1984 Dwight Stephenson
    1981 Dan Hampton
    1977 Casper
    1977 Haynes
    1977 Selmon
    1975 Blount
    1974 Hannah
    1974 DeLamiellure
    1973 Dierdorf
    1972 Yary
    1972 Hendricks
    1970 Tom Mack
    1970 Barney
    1970 Bethea

    My advice to you is if you are serious about the set, don't just collect the modern cards. If you see one of the vintage cards come available you should make a play for it. The vintage rookies have just EXPLODED in value, and with the scarcity that exists in vintage football cards compared to vintage baseball cards, I see no reason that they will not continue to get more expensive. Cards i paid $200 for 5 years ago sell for $1000 today, and its a segment of collecting that is only getting hotter.

    Before the PSA Set Registry, I was collecting only the NFL HOF RCs from 1952-present. And i missed out on some great deals for the older rookies back then that I could kick myself for now. Would have saved me a ton of money. You can also throw out your SMR because you wont sniff any of the vintage rookies for the listed SMR price.

    Good luck to you, and feel free to check out my HOF RC set. I have scans of every card.

    Jason


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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Greg !, I have been talking to you on the message boards for a while now and never put 2 an 2 together, Until you posted that you are Greg Monteith(Sp). I have seen you in several of the 70's football sets that I am in. It is finally nice to meet ya ! By the way most of my my sets are registered as Koffman's Kollection.
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  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    Tennesseebanker - it's nice to know which sets are yours... It seems that we're both putzing away at putting sets together. Which one do you plan in finishing first? I keep going back and forth between my 1959 set and 1971 set. I'm ready to send in 70 or so 71's - which should help me crack the top 5 or 6 spots.

    Did you buy one of the 1986 vending boxes from BBCE? I just got the Rice graded - it came back a 9!!!

    Regards,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Congrats on the Rice ! I plan to finish my 77 Topps Football first, I just moved up to #3 on that one and I have a ton of ungraded 77's waiting on the next 5$ special. every now and then I will upgrade my 83 Topps Football (currently #5) I also have a ton of those to send in. I have really fell behind on my 73 and 75 sets although I have the complete sets I just dont feel justified in spending the moolah to get em graded. If I ever complete the 77 I may start a 74 or 78 set. If you would like to do some trading from these years let me know ! Keep in touch-Tb
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