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Please explain something: Why is Joe DiMaggio's name in the Beatles "Mrs Robinson" song???

DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
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I really was curious
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955
    Actually, tne song belonged to Simon and garfunkel, not the Beatles.

    The song is before my time, but it was discussed in the book "A Hero's Life."

    When the song was written, the country was going through quite a few difficult and painful changes. Some changes were for the better, some for the worse. They used the reference to DiMaggio to reference the heros of the past, when society was more calm and care-free.

    When Joe D had his 56-game hitting streak in 1941, it essentially signaled the last era of innocence for Americans. Afterwards, WWII came and changed the world forever. Those famous lines, "Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you." are simply a cry to the days of old.

    Actually, Joe D. was pretty ticked about the song at first and wanted to sue. After someone explained to him the signifiacnce of the lyrics, he was fine with it.
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  • Mac53Mac53 Posts: 805 ✭
    "Mrs. Robinson" was a Simon and Garfunkle song. The reference has to do with one of the themes of the movie "The Graduate" in which Mrs. Robinson was a character, and during which movie the song was heard. I believe the theme has to do with the connection between the passing generation that idolized Joe DiMaggio as a player, to which Mrs. Robinson belonged, and the next generation, which had not known DiMaggio, and to which Mrs. Robinson's lover belonged. Or something like that.
    "Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."image
  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    I remember seeing a film clip of Mickey Mantle talking to Paul Simon about why his name wasnt included in the song and Simon said that he needed 5 syllables for the name to work.
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow this board is great! Thanks guys, I feel enlightened now. I wonder how groups get away with playing other groups' songs. Did the Beatles get permission from Simon and Garfunkel? That's like asking if Ever Clear got permission from Rick Springfield to sing "Jessie's Girl."
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    As far as I know the Beatles never sang Mrs. Robinson.
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Beatles. Lemonheads. Close enough.
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  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Gemmy,


    I have where the Beatles sing "Mrs. Robinson" but they did not invent it, that's all.
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    To echo Gemmy and Yawie, the Beatles never sang Mrs. Robinson.
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Maybe Ringo's All-Starr Band or whatever it's called covered it. Either way, it's a great song.
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  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Maybe he got the coo coo ca choo (S&G) mixed up with the goo goo g'joob (Beatles)?
  • Mac53Mac53 Posts: 805 ✭
    I didn't know that Mrs. Robinson sang with the Beatles.
    "Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."image
  • interchangesinterchanges Posts: 864 ✭
    we used to sing it:

    "Where have you gone Kenny Stabler...Jesus knows you haven't shaved your beard....."
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    <<I have where the Beatles sing "Mrs. Robinson" but they did not invent it, that's all. >>

    Deut, where did you buy it? I would love to hear the Beatles rendition.
  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Deutch- Im not sure what you are referring to exactly, but The Beatles did not sing Mrs. Robinson.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭

    Deut, no soup for you:

    October 2000 Poll
    In October, we asked Which song do you find most mistaken for a Beatles song? of the 109 votes cast, an overwhelming majority listed John Lennon's masterpiece Imagine as the song that is most often mistaken as a Beatles song. Imagine was recorded by Lennon in the 1970's, several years after the Beatles broke up.
    Other songs receiving votes included Peter and Gordon's World Without Love (written by the Lennon/McCartney tandem), Simon and Garfunkle's Mrs. Robinson; Live and Let Die by Wings; and several others. Look below to see full results.
    Results so far:

    Which song do you find the most mistaken for a Beatles song?
    Imagine (John Lennon, solo)

    41
    World Without Love (Peter and Gordon)

    10
    Live and Let Die (Wings)

    9
    My Sweet Lord (George Harrison, solo)

    8
    Mrs. Robinson (Simon and Garfunkle)

    8
    No Matter What (Badfinger)

    6
    Instant Karma (John Lennon, solo)

    5
    Yellow Brick Road (Elton John)

    3
    Lies (Knickerbockers)

    3
    Band On the Run (Wings)

    2
    Bad to Me (Billy J. Kramer)

    2
    Because (Dave Clark 5)

    2
    Flower People (Spinal Tap)

    2
    Baby Blue (Badfinger)

    1
    Our House (Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young)

    1
    Sunny Afternoon (the Kinks)

    1
    One (Three Dog Night)

    1
    Blue (The Jayhawks)

    1
    Day After Day (Badfinger)

    1

    Fab Four Rubber Poll
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Deut, no soup for you:

    >>



    It feels great being right and making someone else feel bad for making a mistake, doesn't it spammy? That feeling of pointing out to them just how wrong they are?

    Grow up. People make mistakes (like you thinking the yankees making the playoffs this year...thinking $200 million would buy a championship, all that stuff).

  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭

    <<It feels great being right and making someone else feel bad for making a mistake, doesn't it spammy? That feeling of pointing out to them just how wrong they are?>>

    If that aint the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i><<It feels great being right and making someone else feel bad for making a mistake, doesn't it spammy? That feeling of pointing out to them just how wrong they are?>>

    If that aint the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. >>



    Well in your case spammy, I do it more because I despise your trolling and spammy ways more so than calling someone out for being wrong.

  • GoBravesGoGoBravesGo Posts: 607 ✭
    Mantle once asked Paul Simon (who had said many times that Mick was his favorite player) why he didnt write about him instead of Dimaggio. Simon explained that Mickey Mantle was not enough sylables.

    True story
  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Go Braves - I actually saw the clip of that. Thats why I wrote about it in the 4th post on this thread.
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    "Live and Let die" a James Bond theme song was by "Wings" not the Beatles? I never knew that. McCartney was in a group called "Wings" after the Beatles broke up. Thanks for the fact.


    The Beatles did sing "Mrs. Robinson." I own it. I now know Simon and Garfunkel wrote it, but that does not mean the Beatles did not sing it as well for whatever reason. I can send it to you if you want a copy. I think I can attach it to email if you have a high storage account. I got the song from WINMX. You can find there right now. Many copies there.

    Do you think someone just mislabeled the song? It sounded like the Beatles to me. I wonder how they got permission to do this.

    I am so surprised Axtell came to my defense. Gemmy, I thought we were Yankee buddies. You hurt my feelings by not letting me explain. If I made a mistake, then it was based on faulty facts before me like I illustrated above (I mean, not many people got on Bush's case for invading Iraq based on faulty facts laid out before him).


    I know Axtell and I disagree a lot about the Yankees and Don Mattingly, but we do great on the open forum where we battle other wannabe political pundits.

    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Deutcher - I can guarantee that someone mislabled the song.

    The joke in the 80's used to be that young people born after the Beatles broke up didnt know Paul McCartney was in a group before Wings image. Now, apparently, its the other way around.

    Still a great song, still a great reference to DiMaggio, but The Beatles never recorded or sang it, even in bootleg fashion.


  • GoBravesGoGoBravesGo Posts: 607 ✭


    << <i>Deutcher - I can guarantee that someone mislabled the song.
    Beatles never recorded or sang it, even in bootleg fashion. >>

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  • GoBravesGoGoBravesGo Posts: 607 ✭


    << <i>Go Braves - I actually saw the clip of that. Thats why I wrote about it in the 4th post on this thread. >>

    yeah, well I do nto pay that much attention to your posts image (just kidding) Did you post have the link to the actual story? image
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    <<Gemmy, I thought we were Yankee buddies. You hurt my feelings by not letting me explain.>>

    Deut, I am sorry I hurt your feelings. I was just kidding. We are still Yankee buddies. image It's funny but I think I have the same political views as Axtey after reading his posts, but I think he would argue with me about that too. LOL
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Its all good Gemmy!

    I think someone mislabeled the "Mrs Robinson" song on WINMX as a joke. A cruel joke indeed.
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Its all good Gemmy!

    I think someone mislabeled the "Mrs Robinson" song on WINMX as a joke. A cruel joke indeed. >>



    Probably not so much a joke as they just didn't know.

  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Actually Mantle is in a Paul Simon video, the song is Me and Julio Down by the School Yard. I think they are playing stick ball or something like that.

    Stingray
  • greencrowgreencrow Posts: 867
    Happy 99th birthday Joe!
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