Compromised SGC holders???

koby

Fake 1968 Nolan Ryan SGC 92?


The font on the SGC label is different than the ones I have seen in the past. Did this guy have access to SGC holders?

DCICEMAN

The infamous "private auction." He has five non-sports auctions running now. I wonder why they aren't "private?"
People like this need to be publicly flogged.

jrdolan

He might have printed his own flip and resealed an SGC holder he'd carefully cracked. Surprising he didn't even attempt to make his flip look similar to a real SGC flip. If he had bothered to do that, the only evidence visible in the auction would be the card itself, which appears to be trimmed and certainly not a 92 even if unaltered. Novice bidders might attribute that to the deliberately crappy scan, telling themselves "I'm sure it looks like a 92 in person, because that's what SGC graded it." The seller knew that more experienced collectors would see the problems; thus the bidders are hidden.

boggs

And he already has created a partial story. Stating he bought it from someone who had it graded.

iamthegreatcornholio

i believe this is from the same ring of scams as that pete rose rc that had "spider-cracking" on the sgc case.

stevek

Certainly looks to me like of those "professional" ebay scammers who has a new ebay ID. The wording and style of the auction is way too slick for a new ebayer.

WinPitcher

anyone email the guy and ask for the cert number?

Steve D

edited to add...........i agree with stevek looks like a guy that has been around the block a few times.

jrdolan

<< <i>And he already has created a partial story. Stating he bought it from someone who had it graded. >>


I didn't notice that. Do you ever see legitimate sellers say "The person I bought this card from had it graded by PSA"? Of course not, who cares who got it graded? I think you're right, he's setting up his alibi: "If the holder is jury-rigged, it was that way when I bought it."

cdchanger

Last week, I reviewed a bunch of small claims and regular claims on a paid site.
There are tons of cases that spring from online auction transactions.

The primary defense of scamsters is that the item "was sold to the plaintiff
in the same condition that it was in when I bought it from the other guy."
In every case, that defense fails and the plaintiff prevails.

The end-seller who collects money from a buyer cannot successfully blame defects
on a previous seller. If the scamster seller is telling the truth, his remedy lies in an
action against the previous seller. The end-buyer has no privity with the previous
seller, did not do a deal with that previous seller, and his only cause of action is
against the instant scamster.

Sadly, most people just take their loss and do not bother to file suit. First they
abandon the legal system, then they abandon the hobby marketplace.

Cher

mudflap02

We need one of those CSI computers than can instantly enhance the scan and make the cert legible.

EagleEyeKid

the scan and make the cert legible.

The problem with SGC cert # is that it's not even verifiable.
I don't even think they have a cert # look up on their website,
and have never ever seen it anywhere.
The cert # on the label for example; 1413567-001 the first 7 numbers
are the from the submission # on the upper right of the sub form.
The dash and last 3 digits are the order of the cards in the submission.

If someone can show me where to verify cert # for SGC cards; please share.

jrdolan

We need "CSI: eBay Investigations Unit"