Any Chinese Coin Experts here? (updated) (large Pics)

DesertRat

My Dad was married back in the late 50's to a Chinese woman before he married my mother. After her death from Leukemia around 1960 he put her things away in a box. Recently he came across a small jewelry box labeled "Wing Chong & Co. Chinese Jewelry" with an address in San Francisco. Inside the box were the coins below. Can somebody help identify these for me please?

Edited to add: I'm not so concerned with value on these as to history of the coins. Secondly is why someone would save these particular coins given their condition. I took out the original photos posted here since they are all posted below and now identified.

Thanks

DesertRat

Nobody eh?

spinaker2000

There are several here, probably out shooting off fireworks right now.

DesertRat

Thanks...My Dad is coming over for dinner tonight and I was hoping to have an answer for him as to what type, denomination and date they are.

satootoko

All very early 20th Century, or earlier, Chinese Imperial cash coins, Pretty common, and none of them are worth any large premium in the condition shown.

The one in the bezel is upright. To see the others correctly rotate the upper picture of the second one 90 degrees right, the upper picture of the third one 90 degrees left, and the lower picture of the fourth one 90 degrees left.

Sorry not to be more specific, but for anyone but the very few real cash coin experts on the forum specific identification would be a very lengthy process comparing them to pictures in Fisher's Ding or some similar reference.

DesertRat

<< <i>All very early 20th Century, or earlier, Chinese Imperial cash coins, Pretty common, and none of them are worth any large premium in the condition shown.

The one in the bezel is upright. To see the others correctly rotate the upper picture of the second one 90 degrees right, the upper picture of the third one 90 degrees left, and the lower picture of the fourth one 90 degrees left.

Sorry not to be more specific, but for anyone but the very few real cash coin experts on the forum specific identification would be a very lengthy process comparing them to pictures in Fisher's Ding or some similar reference. >>



That is a start, thanks! I was wondering why the one was put in a bezel. Good luck charm maybe, or possibly a birth year coin?

satootoko

<< <i>I was wondering why the one was put in a bezel. Good luck charm maybe, or possibly a birth year coin? >>

Who knows why any particular coin is made into jewelry?

Someone liked the coin enough to want it as a necklace pendant, and now it is one.

tbirde56

Those are some of the pretty common modern Chinese brass 'cash' coins.
I may be off but Left to right:
#1 Peking Board of Revenue (1644-61 or 1694)
#2 Kwangtung (1890-1908)
#3 Peking Board of Revenue (1796-1820)
#4 Peking Board of Revenue (1662-1722)

DesertRat

<< <i>Those are some of the pretty common modern Chinese brass 'cash' coins.
I may be off but Left to right:
#1 Peking Board of Revenue (1644-61 or 1694)
#2 Kwangtung (1890-1908)
#3 Peking Board of Revenue (1796-1820)
#4 Peking Board of Revenue (1662-1722) >>




Thanks Brad!! you gave me a good reference point to begin searching.

I have positively identified the coin in the bezel now.




Obverse: Shun Chih T'ung Pao"
Reverse Right: Manchu Ciowan - Board of Revenue Mint, Peking
Reverse Left: Manchu Boo - Coin
Reference: [S] No. 1405

"This coin was cast in the year of the Emperor's reign (1644). It was issued from the mint attached to the Board of Revenue at Peking, and bears on the reverse the inscription in Manchu letters Boo Ciowan, being the transcript of the two Chinese characters Pao Ch'uan, 'the Fountain Head of the Currency." The money from this mint served as a model for the provincial coinages" [S]


Rarity is listed as "D" (not so many) acording tothe source.

Now on to the other coins....thanks for the help

DesertRat

Got the second one now (actually enjoying this)

It is from the Ching Dynasty and minted in the Kwangtung province during the reign of Emperor Te Tsung (1875-1908). It is very common.

DesertRat

#3 is a "Chia Ch'ing T'ung Pao" from the Peking Board of Revenue mint. It hails from the Ch'ing Dynasty as well and the reign of Emperor Jen Tsung (1796-1820)

DesertRat

And last but not least ....

#4 is another Ch'ing Dynasty cash coin. This one is the "Kang Hsi T'ung Pao" variety and was minted by the Peking Board of Revenue druing the rein of Emperor Sheng Tsu (1661-1722).




Now I have to figure out what to do for the rest of the day

sumnom

The first one is rather nice, DR. It's a clear casting with nice coloration. I have always rather liked these as they were the first issues minted after the Manchu conquest.

ColinCMR

I like that Kwangtung coin, cool finds and cool story

DesertRat

Thanks for the comments. Now that I have them identified is there a source for general value, or are they not worth enough to worry about?

Thanks

satootoko

<< <i>Now that I have them identified is there a source for general value, or are they not worth enough to worry about? >>

Unfortunately, the best sources for common cash coins are the "junk bowls" most dealers have on the their counters. Bear in mind that in many cases there were more examples of a particular cash coin than there are of a typical U.S. Lincoln cent.

DesertRat

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<< <i>Now that I have them identified is there a source for general value, or are they not worth enough to worry about? >>

Unfortunately, the best sources for common cash coins are the "junk bowls" most dealers have on the their counters. Bear in mind that in many cases there were more examples of a particular cash coin than there are of a typical U.S. Lincoln cent. >>




Ok, I had a feeling that was the case, but my Dad asked. Thanks again