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Has anyone ever played with an unreasonable Ebay buyer or seller who has left you a neg?
ChangeIsGood
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I had an error in my listing. Selling a 1996 Lincoln but had 1999 in the title and description header. All other infor was correct including a clear picture in the PCGS holder. We are talking a $10 sale here.
The guy turned me into pay pal right away and notified me he had seen the discrepancy but bid anyway saying he thought the picture was wrong.
It was my error and told him so. Don't know why I put 99 down but did. I offered a full refund plus I would pay return shipping.
He at first wanted $7 returned to him and he would keep the coin. I answered paypal with my offer and even added $1.00 extra for proof of delivery. He accepted and then declined several times thinking I was pulling a fast one on him. The 1996 and 1999 Lincoln
proofs sell for the same price so its not even close to a bait and switch.
His final email to was this:
" I need a partial refund for $4 to cover the inferior coin, i do not trust you to refund my money after I return the coin. Negative feedback will be left if i have not recieved the refund within 3 days. thanks
I am not willing to accept any other so called solutions, because I have to pay for your mistake. I think a partial refund is the best way to go in this situation, positive feedback will be left as soon as i recieve the refund. $12.30 plus $1 is not enough because i will still have to pay for Delivery confirmation. And when you recieve the coin you will have to relist it, another $2 in fees. As i see it you would be better off sending me $4 and ending the hastle right now.
(If i have not recieved a refund by the 8th you will recieve NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. I dont want to hear you crying about the neg in some stupid response or follow up. You have promissed me a 1999 s pcgs pr 69 dcam lincoln cent, so now its time to act like a man and provide what you have promissed or pay up)
I am blocking you on my email, and on my ebay auctions. "
I feel I did all I could. He has several negs and all seem to say he is a hot head.
Needless to say, I got a neg.
He is a penny collector and bids on almost every one that comes. I have started bumping up his bids knowing about what range he is willing to pay. Just a spare time hobby I now have.
Just wondering if anyone else takes to the revenge side now and then. I am not a vengeful person but this guy really pushed my buttons. I bent over backwards to correct it. Have always worked with buyers or sellers if a problem occurs and found most want to work it out.
Maybe he is a forum member and would like to explain his actions.
The guy turned me into pay pal right away and notified me he had seen the discrepancy but bid anyway saying he thought the picture was wrong.
It was my error and told him so. Don't know why I put 99 down but did. I offered a full refund plus I would pay return shipping.
He at first wanted $7 returned to him and he would keep the coin. I answered paypal with my offer and even added $1.00 extra for proof of delivery. He accepted and then declined several times thinking I was pulling a fast one on him. The 1996 and 1999 Lincoln
proofs sell for the same price so its not even close to a bait and switch.
His final email to was this:
" I need a partial refund for $4 to cover the inferior coin, i do not trust you to refund my money after I return the coin. Negative feedback will be left if i have not recieved the refund within 3 days. thanks
I am not willing to accept any other so called solutions, because I have to pay for your mistake. I think a partial refund is the best way to go in this situation, positive feedback will be left as soon as i recieve the refund. $12.30 plus $1 is not enough because i will still have to pay for Delivery confirmation. And when you recieve the coin you will have to relist it, another $2 in fees. As i see it you would be better off sending me $4 and ending the hastle right now.
(If i have not recieved a refund by the 8th you will recieve NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. I dont want to hear you crying about the neg in some stupid response or follow up. You have promissed me a 1999 s pcgs pr 69 dcam lincoln cent, so now its time to act like a man and provide what you have promissed or pay up)
I am blocking you on my email, and on my ebay auctions. "
I feel I did all I could. He has several negs and all seem to say he is a hot head.
Needless to say, I got a neg.
He is a penny collector and bids on almost every one that comes. I have started bumping up his bids knowing about what range he is willing to pay. Just a spare time hobby I now have.
Just wondering if anyone else takes to the revenge side now and then. I am not a vengeful person but this guy really pushed my buttons. I bent over backwards to correct it. Have always worked with buyers or sellers if a problem occurs and found most want to work it out.
Maybe he is a forum member and would like to explain his actions.
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I asked him what ebay seller or for that matter store would refund without having the product in hand?
All I got back was more gibberish. He wanted the coin, just saw an opportunity to get it a little cheaper.
he is jghilino on ebay.
He is blocked for sure.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I also got a NEG because it actually takes a few days for coin to ship from Florida to Oregon.
That dude is SO block'd!
NoEbayAuctionsForNow
I will stop at $1000.
<< <i>To date, i have raised his won auctions by $36.00.
I will stop at $1000. >>
LOL! Payback's a bitch sometimes.
If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
He's like one of the people who will hold up an entire line in the grocery store to argue about a 25 cent coupon.
TorinoCobra71
'Son, you got some work to do!'
<< <i>Why havent you negg'ed his sorry little behind yet!?!?!?!?! >>
Indeed. And do the NPB/FVF procedure on him as well. When he gets three of those, he's auto-NARU'd.
<< <i>To date, i have raised his won auctions by $36.00.
I will stop at $1000.
I approve this message.
I am not sure what NPB/FVF is.
I did turn him into Ebay for extortion which they do have a policy on but as usual, nothing done.
<< <i>To date, i have raised his won auctions by $36.00.
I will stop at $1000.
admitting that openly here is not a good move
<< <i>I am not sure what NPB/FVF is. >>
NPB=Non-Paying Bidder; FVF=Final Value Fees. To start the process, go to your MyeBay screen, Items I've Sold, and choose in the pulldown "Report an Unpaid Item". This will open a Dispute, which you can see in the Dispute Console. After 10 days, you can file to get your Final Value Fees back. Completing this process puts one strike on the bidder's record; when he gets three, he's kicked off eBay.
It is incumbent on every seller to familiarize themself with this process. We all talk about losers on eBay, and wonder why eBay doesn't do anything about them. Well, there is an easy way -- and it only takes three sellers to do it. A loser can get a hundred negs and still be active, but only three of these and he's out.
A similar event arose here once and someone replied, "Was the negative feedback worth the ($10)?"
Sometimes it makes more sense to cave. You've won the battle on principle, but the neg won't help down the road.
And, yes, I have done similar when someone p*ssed me off for whatever reason. It has cost them more money on other bids
And, if I did win, yes, I pay and buy the coin. I don't say/enter into anything I am not prepared for the consequences of..and am a man of my word.
As long as you back up your bids with no problem payment, go for it
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Russ, NCNE
Can you get him NARU'd for what he put in his own auction?
SEARCH TERMS FOR PEOPLE SEARCHING ITEM AND DESCRIPTION (TO ATTRACT HITS, not included in auction): WHITMAN DANSCO SET COLLECTION INDIAN CENT CENTS INDIANS SETS MS PROOF GOOD VG F FINE VERY GOOD MINT PRF PF LOW SHIPPING FREE AU UNCIRCULATED BU ABOUT BRILLANT G STATE FLYING EAGLE WHEAT WHEATS 1857 1858 1859 1860 1861 1862 1862 1862 1865 1866 1867 1868 1869 1870 1871 1872 1873 1874 1875 1876 1877 1879 1880 1881 1882 1883 1884 1885 1886 1887 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1892 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 Key dates, Harris, folder album penny cent Lincoln nickel Jefferson Buffalo Liberty war silver dime Mercury Roosevelt quarter Washington standing sitting seated Liberty half Barber Franklin Bell Kennedy dollars’ Morgan Peace Eisenhower Susan B. Anthony Sacagawea P D S CC O MS DD double die mint state mint set AU au A/U BU bu B/U proof 1909vdb 1910s 1914d 1924d 1931s 1943 1955 small large date SD LD 1950d 1970d 1987 1916d 1921d 1916 1923s 1932 1932d 1932s 1937 1921d 1951 1952 1953 1960 1970. Lincoln Wheat (1909-1958) Lincoln Memorial (1959-Now) 1909-39 1940-58 Mixed Lots 2004 2005 1909 S VDB, 1909 S, 1910 S, 1911 S, 1912 D, 1912 S, 1914 D, 1921 S, 1922 plain, 1924 D, 1924 S, 1926 S, 1927 S, 1931 S, 1970
AUCTION LINK
Look what it costs for getting a coin slabbed.
Has coin collecting really gotten this screwed up?
Stop sending pocket change in to be encapsulated.
Fer Cripes sake, use the 2X2's for junk.
Oh by the way, this is why I leave feedback after I get feedback from the buyer.
Ray
<< <i>Can you get him NARU'd for what he put in his own auction? >>
That's keyword spamming, and definitely a reportable offense.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Why does eBay have the option to search for a bidder? The only reason I can think of is to outbid them or raise their bid...
As a seller, it is invaluable when selling higher priced items in determining whether the buyer is "real" or not.
I have also noticed that some pos feedbacks to him have now added follow ups. I didn't know you could do that so have added my 2 Lincolns. At least you can put a PS to your positive now if someone deserves it.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjghilino
furthermore there used to be a thread with everybodies bad seller/buyer's on it ---is it still in the archives?
Changeisgood--go ahead and play with this guy but my guess it will bite you in the arse very quickly.
remember pay back is a Mother
Oh yes, I like playing the ebay game also..
Herb
<< <i>Blocked. Thanks for the heads up. >>