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Why is this card in a condom?

Why is the '60 Fleer Gehrig on the left wearing the dreaded mylar sleeve? It's a standard card in a standard holder, just like the one on the right.

Too bad Fleer couldn't fix Lou's red-eye back then, but that's another issue.

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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Intresting, would like to find out myself???


    Stingray
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    That one on the left is ugly, I'd be upset, too...

    Mark
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    One of my Brady 2000 SP rookies came back like that. Looks HORRIBLE with all the warping of the plastic sleeve around the corners. They ran out of the regular holders while grading and stuck it in one of these POS. They probably ran into the same situation when grading this card.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if they would re-holder if you complained enough??
  • KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    Ugh.. so do we have to write 'NO FRIG'N CONDOM HOLDER PLEASE' at the top of our submission forms now? image
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Do those holders look exactly alike, I thought they did?

    Stingray
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭


    << <i>They ran out of the regular holders while grading and stuck it in one of these POS. They probably ran into the same situation when grading this card. >>


    Brian, this IS a regular holder. I'm wondering why they saw fit to put poor Lou in a condom when it was completely unnecessary.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    I hope someone will be kind enough to post the article on Knuckles in the upcoming Beckett Hockey mag...In my parts, I've never seen a Beckett Hockey for sale...

    Thanks,
    Mark
  • I was told they use the condom on slightly over sized cards. I dont know why or how it helps , but that is what I was told. My 1986 Fleer is in one.


    James
  • I think when a grader runs out of non sleeved holders they just throw it in a sleeved holder instead of getting up off their buttocks and getting the reg holders. I sent in six 38 goudeys earlier this year and one came back in a condom sleeve, the other 5 didn't. same general grades and the same size card.

    explain that PSA.

    GG
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭
    yeah, I've had that happen too - submit a batch of one type and for some reason a couple come back with the mylar. I don't like it either, but I figure it must be one of those things they learn in profesional grading school.image
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭


    << <i>I think when a grader runs out of non sleeved holders they just throw it in a sleeved holder instead of getting up off their buttocks and getting the reg holders. >>


    The graders don't do the slabbing, but your theory could well apply to those who do.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    PSA uses them for standard cards when they are slightly undersized if I remember right.
    Without the sleeve, the card could move too much and become damaged inside the holder.

    I took a couple of cards to the National last year that were in the sleeves within the slabs
    and asked one of the experts at the PSA booth if they could reholder the cards without them.

    Was told no and informed that if a particular card is in a sleeve it's in it for a a reason.
    Anyway, I don't like them either, so I sold them and found ones that didn't have the sleeves.

    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • Yeah, the condom is a tacky look.

    Wolfbear: Bolts early jerseys were coolest ever. Nice page.
  • wolfbear,

    PSA is feeding you crap. I want someone to crack and resend a mylar sleeved card and see if it comes back with a mylar sleeve. On my 38 goudey and 36 goudey sets I have 2 in sleeves and maybe 60 not in sleeves. same cards, same set, same size, same grades.

    they just look so crappy. its like putting a card in a zip lock bag, then looking at it through a plate of glass. its hard to even get a good look at the stinking card!!

    GG
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    No kidding, GG, and you wonder if the fit is maybe too snug around those precious corners and taking just a bit of sharpness off.

    I can see why they don't have a perfect holder for every size and shape of card ever made, and the sleeve is necessary for to prevent some oddball cards and stickers from sliding around. But these are standard cards. The one on the left fits in the standard holder. If it was oversize for a standard slab, they wouldn't have put it in a standard slab. They'd have used a 1952-56 holder. Why does it need a damn baggie?

    It's a rhetorical question. I've seen standard-size cards sleeved in 52-56 holders before, I assume either because they temporarily ran out of standard slabs or the card was cut slightly too large and they didn't want to crunch the edges too tight against the framing ridges. Fair enough. But why you would sleeve a card in a standard holder when it fits just fine without it, well that's just a stumper.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I was at PSA a few years ago and had a few condomed holders. Asked Charlie if they could do them without the condoms and he had a guy do it right on the spot. He told me it was often arbitrary.
    My '41 Playball set has some with and some without. The condom ones look like crap, and I've had 2 guys turn down ones with them.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    eh if your not happy with the condom send the odd sized stuff to SGC.

    Couldn't find a gehrig.. but use your imagination.. image

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  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭


    << <i>eh if your not happy with the condom send the odd sized stuff to SGC. >>


    It's not odd-sized, that's my point. Proof of that is the holder it's in.

    I'd pay $5 to get it reholdered, except it must be a separate submission from regular grading and will cost an extra $11.50 to ship back. That's PSA's min. return shipping / insurance fee, even for a single card. Yes, it must be a separate submission. No, they will not combine separate submissions into one shipping fee. Well, they might put them all in the same box for their own convenience if they are finished at the same time, but you still have to pay separate shipping in case they don't. It's policy. I've had this fight with them, and I lost. So I either eat the $11.50, or I wait until I have enough reholder requests to justify it.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I have one that way in my 65 set. 1 outta 550 cards thus far. I have no reason to give, I have heard all the above reasons and prolly a few more. I do not like them I will say that.

    Steve
    Good for you.
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