WTF is a staple indentation?
MorrellMan
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Talk about deception through clarity - check out this auction.
I had this card on my watchlist and was ready to set a healthy snipe when I took a good look at the card. I sent the seller this question:
Hello - I am very interested in this card - the scan appears to show what looks like staple holes to the left of the left border. Can you tell me what those two little dots are? Thanks.
This is the response I get back:
I think they are staple indentations..
Comon - we're bidding on condition sensitive items from a picture on a screen. Where does buyer's responsibility begin? I believe all the bidders on this card saw those spots. They chose to not question them. Is that the sellers fault? I really don't think so. I don't think this is an "ethics" question, as has been beaten to death on another thread. This is simple sense - if you're not sure without a reasonable doubt what you're bidding on, don't bid. If you do make a mistake, and ask the seller (in a non-confrontive manner) to help you out and he chooses not to, then you've learned a valuable lesson - and the lesson is not to teach that sonuvab a lesson of his own!
I had this card on my watchlist and was ready to set a healthy snipe when I took a good look at the card. I sent the seller this question:
Hello - I am very interested in this card - the scan appears to show what looks like staple holes to the left of the left border. Can you tell me what those two little dots are? Thanks.
This is the response I get back:
I think they are staple indentations..
Comon - we're bidding on condition sensitive items from a picture on a screen. Where does buyer's responsibility begin? I believe all the bidders on this card saw those spots. They chose to not question them. Is that the sellers fault? I really don't think so. I don't think this is an "ethics" question, as has been beaten to death on another thread. This is simple sense - if you're not sure without a reasonable doubt what you're bidding on, don't bid. If you do make a mistake, and ask the seller (in a non-confrontive manner) to help you out and he chooses not to, then you've learned a valuable lesson - and the lesson is not to teach that sonuvab a lesson of his own!
Mark (amerbbcards)
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Im not into baseball cards but I would not pay 5 bucks for that card.
Anything with Mantles pic on it sells huh ??
Stingray
There are a million flashing red-lights on this auction anyway, you buy it, you deserve it.
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And the seller lies again...to me an "indentation" doesn't go through the card. These are staple HOLES. Has a staple ever not made a hole? I don't think so. A hole in a card degrades the value much more than an indentation.
OK, then....Grand Canyon....hole in the ground!
Ebay sellers...using the language arts to sell...don't ya just love it?
mike
That @$$clown is trying to sell that as a 1/1? What, did he use his wife's scrapbooking diecuts to make this card, then a clear sticky label maker. This type of stuff, even if he disclosed that is was not made from th factory should not be allowed on ebay, not to protect any nieve buyer, just because the seller is presenting something that is not real, this type of stuff really bugs the crap out of me.
He called it a piece of art. Art is art. Are you saying that if I customize my Harley Davidson's paint job I can't sell it on Ebay because the seller is presenting something that is not real? If I painted the bike with a picture of me (now that would not sell) I could call it a 1/1 masterpiece. So I am confused that you don't think it is real. Now on the other hand I don't like it either but the guy is an "artist" and needs to sell his work. I don't see anything wrong with selling it as ART not as a sports card. I also don't like that he listed it in sportscards but buyer beware has always been around on these boards. So, know what you are buying.
Not saying I would buy it but he is making good $$ on these so far without any Negs from them.
Wish I would have came up with the idea but I never could have slept at night knowing I cut up some cards for "Art". Well, unless they were Vikings cards.
<< <i>Thats one ugly card! 500 bucks??? wtf.
Im not into baseball cards but I would not pay 5 bucks for that card.
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sure you would..
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The guy can not call that card Ex with the pin holes - PSA will automatically assign a PSA 1 to the card.
So the value is way less IMO. It sure is getting a lot of bids for a card that is nearly miscut and has two pinholes?
I don't get it?
mike
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<< <i>Nick, you may be right - that may be what he means by indentation - but it's still a hole. If it doesn't go all the way through is it still a 1? >>
Mark
That's sorta like being only partially pregnant?
Nobody don't like staple marks
At least the guy's honest, and a bit of a comedian.
-Edna