What card does the hobby recognize as Ty Cobbs RC

speeder

Is there a general consensus on which card can be considered Ty Cobbs rookie card ??

thank you friends !!

WinPitcher

Lee

I think it is the 1909 t206 cards of him. he has quite a few in that set. A few fronts and many different backs. 10 at least in all, maybe a few more too!

also and I think it may predate the 206's is what the hobby calls "Dietsch Postcard" I think was made in 1907 thru 09

Steve

speeder

what about his 1907 W555 card ?

lee

RipublicaninMass

What year is the t205 gold border?

speeder

gold border t205,,, i believe those are 1911

also could be his 1908 e102 card ?

lee

MajorDanby

<< <i>also could be his 1908 e102 card ? >>



I believe these are now known to have been distributed in 1909.

Griffins

It depends on your definition of a card. Brett Domue's site is an excellent source of information on Pre WW2 HOFers.
Brett Domue's Website
The short answer is that if you don't count postcards and cabinet cards, it could be any one of several E cards. Or D cards. Or discs. Or maybe T206.

helionaut

In general, RCs aren't really discussed for pre-WWII players. I think because collectors of that era are more dignified and mature, or because the hobby was much different then with all the different formats of cards and their distribution, "rookie card" is a term that's not really applicable. You can also check out BMWcards.com for a perspective on rookie cards. Say what you will about his personality, Brian Wentz knows cards.

MajorDanby

rookie cards are indeed difficult to define in the prewar (for the sake of argument, lets say the war were talking about here is WW2 era). One of the bigger problems is that unlike 1948 and beyond, there were not largely distibuted sets produced on a yearly basis. Stan musial's first card was produced about 3 or 4 years after his first big league hit. His designated rookie card, 48 bowman, is what...a decade after getting called up to the big leagues.

i think cobb's rookie is likely the t206. check this site out:

http://www.lewisbaseballcards.com/

hal lewis is a big time collector of rookie cards.

Knuckles

speeder

Well, the consesus is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, there is no consensus !!

this same question was posed on the SGC vintage board.

There does seem to be an agreement that cabinet cards & postcards are not eligible.

It seems that any card between 1908 & 1910 are in the running.

It does seem that the 1907/1909 (?) W555 card is most likley the most scarce and the card that people know least about.
(probably handcut ? possibly from a candy box ?) that is all anybody has guessed at.

thanks everyone, lee

2dueces

Knuckles, AWESOME COBBS!!!!!!!!!!! I can only dream of owning examples that fine. SOme rookie cards of pre war players werent issued until they were retired for 20 years!! Out

stevek

Yes, Knuckles...very, VERY, VERY nice cards!

speeder

yes, knuckles

thank you for that informative reply !

so glad i could give you a stage.

lee