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BubblesInTheShed

Anyone ever bought from this guy? He some raw items in his ebaystore that I would like....

baseballfanatic

Get a scan of the back of some cards if its a high dollar purchase. They could be OC on the back bringing down the over all grade if you get it graded. The guy is a high volume PSA GAI submitter, so if it isnt graded, there might be a reason why....

KansasJayhawk

Wayne is a great guy that stands behind his stuff, I have purchased cards from him that indeed had issues with the back, and he took care of a full refund no questions asked. I always check his website for cards I need, and he has quite an unopened pack selection to boot.

AkbarClone

I've bought from him before. No problems--good service.

goudeygold

Make that outstanding service. Full refund no questions asked. They switched to GAI recently and I don't think they send to PSA anymore.

I have purchased several cards from them, and chat with them at every show I go to.

GG

ArchStanton

Wayne and Bill are top notch. I have bought plenty of raw cards from them. They grade pretty accurately. The card comes in a card saver sealed with their inventory sticker. Check the card when you get it. They will stand behind their products.

I make sure to pick up my purchases in person, because Bill is always willing to talk and is a great source of information.

ctsoxfan

Nice guy he may be - but his raw cards are not in holders for a reason. And, he slightly overgrades even those (not unusual of course, but worth mentioning).

Axtell

<< <i>Nice guy he may be - but his raw cards are not in holders for a reason. And, he slightly overgrades even those (not unusual of course, but worth mentioning). >>



It's always struck me as odd when someone deals in both graded and raw cards.

Obviously they know the value in getting cards (particularly higher end cards) graded...what would prevent someone from doing so?

PlayBall

I consider Wayne and Bill to be the BEST dealers I've ever come across. Their raw grading is as accurate as anybody on vintage, especially pre-war. And yes, their raw cards are not in holders for a reason. Because they don't consider them high enough grade! For a long time they only graded NM/MT or better cards. Then they slowly moved into grading lesser grade star cards. To insinuate that their cards are not in holders for any other reason is lousy. They may not always come precisely in the grade you want, but they will grade.

They still submit to PSA. I sat next to Bill (at the PSA table) at the last Fort Washington show, and watched him submit a thick stack of Play Ball's. They are also very enjoyable to talk to at shows. Very honest and upfront with their cards.

Griffins

Wayne and Bill are as solid as they come. Wayne told me that while they will not guarantee what grade a card will come back, they WILL guarantee that it will grade.
The last card I bought from them was a '33 Sport Kings that they called Ex. It graded out PSA 7. Pretty consistant with my prior purchases from them. I've never had one grade lower than the raw grade.
About 2 1/2 years ago I was at the SF Labor day show on a Saturday morning. I handed Wayne my wantlist and he saw I needed a '57 Bakep error. He knew he had seen it that morning, so he covered his table and walked up and down with me until he had found the dealer with the card. I bought it and went back to offer him a finders fee, and he declined. Wouldn't even let me buy him coffee. At that point he didn't know my name and didn't recognize me as a mail order client, so he didn't have any motive other than to be a nice guy.
You won't have any problems ordering from them. And IMO it is the best laid out catalog in the hobby.

envoy98

Wow. Those are some pretty ringing endorsements if I've ever heard them. I might have to go check this guy out for myself. Anyone have a link to his website or can I get it via his ebay auctions?

Griffins

Wayne Varner's Shoebox Cards
Wayne told me he doesn't grade everything because he has a lot of customers that don't like graded cards, and he likes to give them some options. Considering how long he's been around and the client base I"m sure he's built up it sounded reasonable.

Brooksie05

Just bought to raw cards from this guy and got them graded

1.) t206 1910 Jerry Freeman advertised VG/EX for $35.00. Came back an SGC 70!

2.) 1933 Goudey Paul Waner advertised VG/EX for $75.00. Came back an SGC 60!

3.) t206 1910 Hal Chase advertised for VG for $55.00. Came back an SGC 40.

Top notch dealer with good communication. Grades ungraded cards very strictly, wouldn't hesitate to buy from him again.

jayhawke

Tried to buy from them, but their prices are on the highend and not much wiggle room.

WinPitcher

I have bought from Wayne and Barbara? and have never had a problem.

smallstocks

I do not grade all my cards regardless of condition for two reasons:

1) Many people like to collect sets/cards strictly in raw form (as I have religiously done with 1955 Topps).

2) Sometimes cards are worth more to me as a seller raw. If I must pay $6+ to grade a card and it will then sell for $10, I am better off selling it raw if I think I can get $8.

It's that simple. Problem is that too many sellers overgrade their cards. That is why I decided that there is no way that will happen when I got back into the hobby again this past January. The only reason I sell any cards at all is so I can raise many to collect and build other cards I need, not to make a living. I don't want to be ripped off and I of course don't want to be ripped off either.

Mike