What will be hot?

Stingray

Kind of base of the 60s getting cheap thread, what do you think will be the next cards to get hot and what sport. I think that 70s hockey, especially OPC, could be the next hot item. Just a thought.

Stingray

julen23

I think summer in Chicago will be very hot.

IMHO game-used seems to be a dying trend (barring pulling babe ruth autos), overpopulated and utterly confusing to differentiate bet/ 1 group from another.

High Grade rookies and HOF'ers from various decades are always sought after.

Sometimes the more things change, the more they stay the same I suppose?

Julen

Stingray

Game used was fine when it was inserted 1 in 2,500 packs started by UD. Never did pull one of those, but when you by a $5+ pack and you pull some no name, you feel like what a waste. That stupid Pacific Private Stock hockey (2001 or 2002?), I remember that stuff flying off the tables at the card shows, so many used cards in that stuff and it ended up for the majority of it being worthless.

Stingray

zef204

I think the next big thing is this thig called the "internet". Its goning to be BIG! They have it on computers now.

I always pull that line out when people start giving stock tips.

I think that 70's basketball(including 69-70) I feel like there is not much of it in high grade and people are starting to pay premiums for PSA 9's of Maravich, Barry, obviously Lew and Wilt as well. I hope that it does catch fire as I have a lot of this laying around.

ndleo

Game Used and Certified Autographs are here to stay. They are the base of the hobby. Despite the overall decline in the number of collectors, the card companies still sell hundreds of millions of dollars of new product that mostly feature some form of jersey or autograph.

Personally I like the changes since it has forced the companies to be creative. Look at the 2004 SP Authentic Football Jersey/Auto Rookies, they are some of the best looking cards ever produced. I would rather buy a certified autograph card that an auto with a PSA/DNA cert.

goudeygold

pre-war in mid to high grade will continue to get hotter. especially smaller print runs, and smaller regional sets. People like the chase and the race for these is often long and hard for set builders. Premiums for complete pre-war sets will continue to be strong as well since it often takes years to build these sets. On top of this, high end collectors tend to buy and hold so when a card comes up, often it doesn't reenter the fray for years or ever. My 38 goudeys example... 300 PSA 8s, 16 PSA 9s. Never seen a single 9 in 2 years, only seen maybe 6 different 8s in 2 years?! Where are the other 294? As for high grade raw floating around? not at the 8 level, the pop report hasn't changed at PSA 8-9 in over 2 years. Scarcity never goes out of style if you have the patience for it.

GG

Axtell

I can't help but think football cards are going to be the next big thing.

I can't help but think they are tremendously undervalued. As football's popularity rises, and as football continues to draw in more fans, more people are going to look to it's history. You don't have to go back far to get into sets with incredibly numbers of HoF'ers. My 85 set for example, has over 30 HoFers in it.

I think there will always be a market for the baseball rookie HoF set, as the profileration of modern GU and Autoed 1/1 garbage continues to flood the market.

zef204

Ax-

The problem is that of those 30 HOFer's 20+ of them have 8-10, or in steneurd's case 14, previous cards. I think that the 80's stuff is so mass produced that it will be tough for say, a PSA 9 83 Dorsett, to go for more than a few bucks. I sold that card in a PSA 10 for I think around $30-$35 six months ago.

Look at the 1980 Baseball set, PSA 9's of some of thos HOFer's won't even sell for the $9.99 that 4_million_submissions is asking for them.

goudeygold

I generally agree that vintage football in high grade is a decent option. However, you have to realize the football HOf and the baseball HOF are not equal. With the average football career lasting all of 4 years, it really doesn't take much to get into the football HOF. The path to the baseball HOF is probably the toughest in the land. Flat out luck is a much bigger factor in football compared to baseball, and when you can probably can get into the HOF with a few great years, it just doesn't seem like the HOF holds that much weight especially considering you can probably play in well under 100 games and be HOF bound. thats barely half a single baseball season.

GG

Axtell

I wasn't speaking directly to the 85 set, I was speaking that the numbers of HoFers in these sets are high. Vintage of course is going to be worth more, but even the more modern stuff is still really affordable and can only go up in price.

goudeygold

Beware of that logic Axtell. "it is so low it can only go up". many people are probably saying the same about 88 topps. What goes down often does for a reason, and very well may never come back up, or go up at all.

Look at beanie babies. I dumped my wifes collection when it started to slip and its a damn good thing I did. The guy I unloaded almost a grand worth to says "yea, they are so cheap now they have nowhere to go but up" well, he has probably lost atleast 80% of what he paid me. You can't even sell the damn things now for $1 each. They will NEVER come back, just like the 80s baseball glut.

not a pefect example, but a good example of the flaw in logic.

GG

Axtell

Well unlike beanie babies (a fad) or 88 topps (no value), older football cards will always have a market (as football isn't going anywhere).

ndleo

Axtell - I agree with you. I can't wait for training camp to start.

Boopotts

"Beware of that logic Axtell. "it is so low it can only go up". many people are probably saying the same about 88 topps."

As the old saying goes, 'don't try and catch a falling knife'.

Southerncards

What will be hot? No question, mid to high grade late 60's and early 70's football.

You read it here first!

Stone193

91 and 92 Upper Deck Baseball

jrdolan

1989 Donruss commons. It's so worthless, there's nowhere to go but up. I'm stocking up.

N162Collector

Justin Upton crap

Axtell

<< <i>1989 Donruss commons. It's so worthless, there's nowhere to go but up. I'm stocking up. >>



Funny that people think that ALL worthless garbage has nowhere to go but up.

I think most baseball fans are in denial that the NFL has overtaken MLB as America's pastime.

julen23

I agree 100%, but I'd rather collect baseball cards than football ANY day of the week.

Julen

NickM

1950s and 1960s baseball regional sets from cities other than New York and L.A. We have seen incredible price appreciation over the last two years on the major L.A. (Bell Brand and Morrell) and New York (Stahl-Meyer, Dormand) regional sets. I expect the same trend spreads for sets around the rest of the country, with Kahn's being high on the list.

Many of the collectors who grew up in this era and have been collecting the sets they grew up on are expanding their collecting horizons. One natural expansion for them is sets that they may never have collected, but which have the players they remember from their childhoods.

Nick