Trimmed?

Stingray

I know this is a very used up topic, but does this card look trimmed. The top, bottom and left borders look pretty much even and then the right border is smaller, there is a gap from the right edge to the inside of the holder. The card does not appear to have a wider left border to compinsate for the right one being smaller. Opinions please.



Stingray

Brian48

Yeah, it does look it. Let me put it this way, if I saw this RAW, I'd definitely pass on it.

jrdolan

As dabighurt would say ... buy the holder, not the card.

Seriously, PSA may let a trimmed card slip through by accident, but the odds are against it. That said, this card does look perfectly centered except for the right border. Odd. Well, since it's a $15 card that's easy to find, I'd look for another one to compare it to. Or just look for another one and let someone else worry about it.

iamthegreatcornholio

Could it be from vending - aren't those a little smaller?

Brian

MorrellMan

Brian, no - it's the presentation set cards that are a little bit smaller.

wallst32

If there is any curl to the card, that throws off the perspective, especially on the edges. You're assuming the card is perfectly flat.

As I've said many times, you can't evaluate a card based on a scan.

TimeMachine

I have had a few '67 topps graded that appeared a bit on the small side, but I understand that there were some issues in the 60's that Topps did not consistently cut perfectly. PSA graded a '67 Yaz of mine an 8 that I wasn't sure would get thru grading b/c of size issues, but I was quite certain the card was not trimmed because I know the party I bought the card from owned it since he pulled it from a pack long ago.

BTW, some '68's are slightly LARGER than normal, be it a 1/64 or 1/32 of an inch in L or W.

stevek

Stingray - Ain't you getting tired of this with the constant PSA digs in many of your threads that you start. I know I'm tired of it. Either that or familiarize yourself better with baseball cards and how they are graded - No...that 67 card doesn't look trimmed whatsoever.

Stingray

I did not realize that I was making so many gripes at PSA, I was attempting to get the opinions of the board members on this paticular card. I was hoping to gain some knowledge that someone has on 67s stating like it is known that 67s were not cut evenly or they are not all cut to the same size. I was not trying to take a dig at PSA. I just collect 67s and learning something of this set is always helpful.

Stingray

stevek

<<< I did not realize that I was making so many gripes at PSA, I was attempting to get the opinions of the board members on this paticular card. I was hoping to gain some knowledge that someone has on 67s stating like it is known that 67s were not cut evenly or they are not all cut to the same size. I was not trying to take a dig at PSA. I just collect 67s and learning something of this set is always helpful. >>>

Cool - sorry for the misinterpretation on my part. I am an active collector of 60s Topps myself and continued good luck on collecting the 67 Topps which is a beautiful set!

Steve

Stingray

Thanks for your words of encourment on collecting this set, now if I just had an unlimited supply of money. But then again, that is what makes this fun, I have to be frugel (spelling?) on what and when I buy cards, not able to just to purchase anything anytime I want.

Stingray

MarkLee

Stingray,

The card does seem to be off just a hair - less than 1/32" on the width. I zoomed it up pretty large and did a careful pixel measurement . As somebody above mentioned though, you can never tell that the card is lying perfectly flat in a scan. However there really is just not enough room in the slab for the card to curl any significant amount. And besides, almost always a card will "curl" around the short axis. This would throw your measurement off in the other direction. I would bet if you cracked this slab, the card would be just short of 2.5" wide. That being said, it probably was cut like that from the sheet. I have been measuring card scans more carefully since getting burned on this raw 1973 Rose card last month ...

Trimmed Rose

It measured a full 1/32" short on the width and upon close inspection it was obvious a blade had been applied to the left border. Best of luck with your '67s. That is my birth year also, and one of the best looking Topps sets in my opinion.

bxb

The card looks OK to me.
I have seen lots of 1967s that are a bit small in the holder, or centering off a bit like this.

DaBigHurt

<< <i>I know this is a very used up topic, but does this card look trimmed. The top, bottom and left borders look pretty much even and then the right border is smaller, there is a gap from the right edge to the inside of the holder. The card does not appear to have a wider left border to compinsate for the right one being smaller. Opinions please.



Stingray >>



The card is fine. I think the problem is with the scan. It's very hard to judge the condition of a card with just a scan. Most scanners just can't pick up faint print dots, wrinkles, corner wear and the size of cards.