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Status of Sacagawea "Mules" of a few years ago?

FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
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I haven't heard too much lately about these "great modern rarities" ( ... checking to see if my tongue is still in my cheeks ) but how many were finally found? What's the current legal status of them ( did the mint grab them all )?Isn't this coin in the same league as the 1804 & 1913?When will we see the first one hit $100,000.00?image

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭
    There is like 10 or so.......With one guy in the SW USA owning like 7 or 8 of them......I think they are legal, for now, to own.....

    TorinoCobra71

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    I think the ones that escaped through mint channels are legal to own but the rest that were sneaked away aren't and were confiscated. But they are all fantasy pieces.
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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Great to see one guy can see the true potential of these modern classics. At the price he paid I don't think I'd call them widgets by any means. I wouldn't call them junk either but I can think of them that way can't I? Or am I just jeoulous I couldn't afford one? I just got a new Jeep Liberty Limited CRD (Diesel) for half the price ( had to finance of course image ) and I think I'm happier with that than I'd ever be with a Sacky Mule.

    Course I don't think the Sacky can get run over by an 18-wheeler can it. But on the other hand the Sacky mule can't pull a Camping Trailer.image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    A patient of mine is a machinist at the Phila Mint. He knew both guys involved in making the mules and how they got them out of the Mint. When we chatted about the mules, about a year ago, he told me they made a lot more than 10, and the Sac/Q mules were not the only errors they made.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A patient of mine is a machinist at the Phila Mint. He knew both guys involved in making the mules and how they got them out of the Mint. When we chatted about the mules, about a year ago, he told me they made a lot more than 10, and the Sac/Q mules were not the only errors they made. >>



    Details, Barry, we need details! How did they remove the pieces? What were the other errors? How many more than the 10 Sac/Q errors were made? Don't keep us in suspense! image

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
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  • errormavenerrormaven Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭
    There are three Wash/Sac mule die pairs. If I recall correctly, the first discovered die pair was acknowledged by the Mint as a legitimate error. They've been mum on the other two die pairs. Of course, many other mules have turned up -- the unique "double-sided mule" Maryland quarter minted on a Sac planchet in a Sac collar, three different cent/dime mules, a two-tailed dime, and a pair of two-tailed quarters. The two-tailed jobs were minted decades ago but only surfaced a few years ago.

    I couldn't say which ones were intentional errors and which ones were accidents. They're all very valuable. A cent/dime mule sold for $125,000 a few years ago.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Details, Barry, we need details! How did they remove the pieces? What were the other errors? How many more than the 10 Sac/Q errors were made? Don't keep us in suspense! image

    Lane >>


    Lane,
    I don't have many more details, unfortunately. He told me the way they smuggled coins out was using a false bottom in their lunch boxes. He also intimated that some of the Mint security people must have been aware or involved for it to happen for as long as it went on (NOT just a one time thing.) I'm not keeping you in suspense - as far as numbers of what was made, that I don't know.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting, any change to the status of these mules?
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  • Bryan1315Bryan1315 Posts: 579
    looks like Tommy Bolack has bought 7 of the 10 known. Maybe he's trying to aquire all of them for his own collection then he can set a million dollar price tag on one of them when he lets one go
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  • Bryan1315Bryan1315 Posts: 579


    << <i>They're all very valuable. A cent/dime mule sold for $125,000 a few years ago. >>


    This one sold for $138,000.00 including the juice in April of this year 11 cent Mule
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  • LastExitInNYLastExitInNY Posts: 600 ✭
    Are they allowed to carry "lunch boxes" into the mint?
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    interesting read indeed.
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  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    I'm gald the mint folks have a "sense" of humor......!!!!!!!
    ......Larry........image
  • waynemewayneme Posts: 852 ✭
    what would a new mule be worth
  • lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861 ✭
    <<This one sold for $138,000 including the juice>>

    I was the under bidder at auction against a phone guy who wouldn't quit. If one of those Sag/quarter mules come to auction, I'm going to 6 figures for sure... If...
    The Accumulator - Dark Lloyd of the Sith

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  • waynemewayneme Posts: 852 ✭
    Tommy Bolack is the recorded owner of 7 but does anyone know if he owns the rest or would anyone know
    who the other owners are and what is the total found all i can find on the net is a few years old

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