A little help from bust half collectors

tmot99 · May 27, 2005 11:55PM

I have just put on lay-away a NGC AU53 1806 Bust Half. It is O-119A. This is the highest graded of this Overton by NGC by a few grades. It has beautiful original luster around the stars and some great blue toning around the rims.

NGC lists populations by Overton, but what about PCGS? NGC lists only 3 graded of this. How rare is this coin? I feel I got it at a steal for what it is. The worst problem with the coin is it has the noted weakness on the left wing (rev) and lower ribbon ends and curls (obv).

I don't have the coin in hand so I can't take pictures. I will see if I can bring the coin home for photos next week.

mozin · May 28, 2005 2:29AM

Sounds like you found a nice coin to buy. The O-119 and the O-119A are both currently R3 so neither would be worth a premium over other common varieties. Sinced PCGS does not list varieties all I can say is that I found auction records on four MS62-65 examples slabbed by PCGS or NGC.

stman · May 28, 2005 2:59AM

<< <i>NGC lists only 3 graded of this >>

It sounds like you're saying they've only graded 3 with the Overton number on the SLAB. I didn't check but I'm sure they've graded
many more WITHOUT the Overton number on the slab. This service I believe cost more for the Overton number and also they
probably didn't do it long ago.

I look at it like the "*" designation. The new thing is for sellers to quote population for the "*" but there are a ton
of coins out there that got graded before this started. With the exception that an Overton number isn't really
subjective like the "*" coins are.

tmot99 · May 28, 2005 3:31AM

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<< <i>NGC lists only 3 graded of this >>

It sounds like you're saying they've only graded 3 with the Overton number on the SLAB. I didn't check but I'm sure they've graded
many more WITHOUT the Overton number on the slab. This service I believe cost more for the Overton number and also they
probably didn't do it long ago.

I look at it like the "*" designation. The new thing is for sellers to quote population for the "*" but there are a ton
of coins out there that got graded before this started. With the exception that an Overton number isn't really
subjective like the "*" coins are. >>

Point taken.

JrGMan2004 · May 28, 2005 3:47AM

Do yourself a favor, and don't rely on the NGC or PCGS census' for rarity......... PCGS does not attribute by Overton numbers, and for NGC, you gotta pay $7 more to put the Overton number on the slab... on top of that, most very serious bust marriage collectors, prefer their coins raw... The BHNC or JRCS Census' are MUCH more accurate than the TPGs will ever be for Die Marriages...