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Thursday Evening Spam: Boston Headed Towards the Cellar

From World Champions to Bottom Feeders.

Yankees are now 1/2 game ahead of Bosox and tied with Toronto for 2nd. Just in time for the start of the series with Red Sox tomorrow. Wish I were going. My brother owes me. image

A-Rod is gunning for League MVP. At this rate he will be a Shoe In.

15 outta 17 BABY!!!! image

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    And pay $84,801,692 more in payroll...

    YEAH BABY!!!!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • You just don't get it.
    Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.

  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    I get it. I think there should be a REAL salary cap. There is nothing I can do about it if there isn't. Love him or hate him, Steinbrenner plays within the rules. Just because a team spends millions doesn't mean they will win the WS. Just ask the Marlins or Diamondbacks. And how about those big money spending Mets teams and Orilole teams of the 1990's?
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    It doesn't matter when you can't beat the D Rays and the O's!

    JS
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    joestalin, isn't that photo in your Signature Line a player on a football team that won a whopping 5 games last year? It caused you to spend quite a bit of time in the ole Woodshed. In fact you are the Collectors Universe Message Board Yellow Ribbon Record Holder.

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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    So you want to start talking NFL Smack?? I think as a fair weather Giants fan you need not go there! Did ESPN also show Jeter's boot?

    LMK
    JS
  • Gemmy, you crack me up.
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    As the world turns......Axtell has refrained himself. Gemmy and Joestalin emerge as the new......

    image
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just because a team spends millions doesn't mean they will win the WS. Just ask the Marlins or Diamondbacks. >>



    Well, let's see... Both the Marlins and D-Backs won the WS with HUGE payrolls only to see their teams be dismantled the following year.

    Uh, I don't get it. What's your point??
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    The Marlins did not have a hugh payroll in 2003 when they beat the Yankees and Arizona had much less.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Marlins did not have a hugh payroll in 2003 when they beat the Yankees and Arizona had much less. >>



    I wasn't talking about the Marlins' payroll in 2003, I was referring to 1997.

    .......

    From the site above:

    The Florida Marlins became the first expansion team to win the World Series after only five years of existence. Although the victory was over the American League powerhouse Cleveland Indians, most fans did not grant the Nationals the respect they deserved citing the team's $89 million dollar payroll as the determining factor. The accusations eventually proved true as the financially strapped owners were forced to dismantle the majority of the franchise in the post-season expansion draft.

    ........

    In regards to Arizona in 2001, they "only" had 26% less in payroll than the Yanks; yet still in the top 10.

    Yankees - $109,558,908
    DBacks $81,206,513

    And here is a great summary:

    ..........

    Because they began to contend in their second season, the Diamondbacks made trades sent prospects such as Brad Penny and Vicente Padilla away for veterans. They also spent a lot of money to lure major league free agents (which also cost them seven compensatory draft picks from 1998-2000) as well as amateurs in Travis Lee and John Patterson, two loophole free agents from the 1996 draft.

    While Arizona has remained in contention, millions of dollars in deferred payments will have to be made soon, forcing the team to trim payroll and go with more youth. The biggest sign of that came when the Diamondbacks traded Curt Schilling to the Red Sox in November. Though Arizona spent some of that savings in the subsequent Richie Sexson deal with the Brewers, it reduced its 2004 payroll by roughly $10 million.

    ..........

    And just to keep things in perspective, the Yanks payroll is 41% HIGHER than the next team.

    1 New York Yankees $208,306,817
    2 Boston Red Sox $123,505,125

    That's $84,801,692 image Do you realize how much money that is? Let's see, that's more than how many other teams TOTAL payroll?

    Los Angeles Dodgers $83,039,000
    Houston Astros $76,779,000
    Chicago White Sox $75,178,000
    Baltimore Orioles $73,914,333
    Detroit Tigers $69,092,000
    San Diego Padres $63,290,833
    Arizona Diamondbacks $62,329,166
    Cincinnati Reds $61,892,583
    Florida Marlins $60,408,834
    Minnesota Twins $56,186,000
    Texas Rangers $55,849,000
    Oakland Athletics $55,425,762
    Washington Nationals $48,581,500
    Colorado Rockies $48,155,000
    Toronto Blue Jays $45,719,500
    Cleveland Indians $41,502,500
    Milwaukee Brewers $39,934,833
    Pittsburgh Pirates $38,133,000
    Kansas City Royals $36,881,000
    Tampa Bay Devil Rays $29,363,067

    That's 20 teams!

    I know Georgie isn't doing anything "wrong" according to the rules, but please... Bragging about winning with a payroll like that is pretty weak.

    Congrats on buying the championship this year. I guess having the highest payroll for, what, the past 10 years, is finally paying off?
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on buying the championship this year. >>



    Stown, your post was spot on - with one exception. They haven't won anything yet. And, can you imagine how embarassing it will be if they lose with a $200 million plus payroll?

    I can. image
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  • Nice job Stown.
    Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Bumped for Gemmy's response, just in case he missed it due to being so busy yesterday image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    The Yanks made it to the WS in the following years:

    1996
    1998
    1999
    2000
    2001
    2003

    I'll give you one guess who had the higest payroll each of those years.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Gemmy,

    Still awaiting a rebuttal/comments in regards to the above.

    Thanks in advance!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • <<Still awaiting a rebuttal/comments in regards to the above.>>

    Yes, I too would like to hear Gemmy's rationalization regarding stown's careful analysis.
    Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.

  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i><<Still awaiting a rebuttal/comments in regards to the above.>>

    Yes, I too would like to hear Gemmy's rationalization regarding stown's careful analysis. >>



    The most you'll get is 'hey George is playing within the rules of the game!'

    But with the yankees losing 2 of 3 of the BoSox, he'll be a ghost here tonight (again) thank god.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    OK I admit I was wrong about the 1997 Marlins and 2001 Diamondbacks but I was correct about the 2003 Marlins.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OK I admit I was wrong about the 1997 Marlins and 2001 Diamondbacks but I was correct about the 2003 Marlins. >>



    BUZZ, wrong answer....

    As I said, it had nothing to do with the 2003 Marlins.

    You said:

    Just because a team spends millions doesn't mean they will win the WS.

    Yet EVERY year the Yanks have made it to the World Series, they have had the highest payroll in the Majors. This year, your payroll is 41% than the second higest payroll.

    It's pretty pathetic to brag about a team with a payroll like that.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    << Just because a team spends millions doesn't mean they will win the WS. Just ask the Marlins or Diamondbacks. >>

    Well, let's see... Both the Marlins and D-Backs won the WS with HUGE payrolls only to see their teams be dismantled the following year.

    As I said, it had nothing * to do with the 2003 Marlins.


    I guess you don't understand the word win.

    I admitted I was wrong about the 1997 Marlins and 2001 Diamondbacks but the 2003 Marlins had a very low payroll and were not dismantled.

    * By the way the 2003 Marlins won the WS in case you did not know.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess you don't understand the word win. >>



    Keep dancing and perhaps your double talk will eventually start to make some sense...

    Of the six times the Yanks made it to the World Series with the highest payroll in the Majors, they won it four times.

    You may not "win" the World Series every year, but according to the law of averages, you will win a majority of them. And let's not forget the fact that over at least the past nine years, the Yanks have made it to the World Series 66.6% (ironic number, isn't it??) of the time. That number would have been higher but they choked a 3-0 lead last year, remember? So as I was saying, of the 66.6% appearance rate, they won it 66.6% of the time...

    Whoa, there's the same number again... I guess it is true, they sould their souls to the Devil... MUWAHAHAHAHA!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    stown, You are the one who is dancing in the dark.

    Sorry to take your 66.6% away from you but during the 10 years from 1995 to 2004, the Yankees didn't get to the World Series in 1995, 1997, 2001, 2002, and 2004. That's 50% of the time.

    Yeah 66.6%, fun with numbers for you. Or perhaps I should call it the twisting of the numbers.

    What's an stown anyway?
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>stown, You are the one who is dancing in the dark.

    Sorry to take your 66.6% away from you but during the 10 years from 1995 to 2004, the Yankees didn't get to the World Series in 1995, 1997, 2001, 2002, and 2004. That's 50% of the time.

    Yeah 66.6%, fun with numbers for you. Or perhaps I should call it the twisting of the numbers.

    What's an stown anyway? >>



    I mean if you want to add the year prior to making it to the World Series, by all means go ahead; their 1st appearance was in 1996. Even taking your 50%, it's still more than any other team by quite a margin. Only the Braves made it more than two times (three total=30% and they too were a top spender) during your time period. Any way you attempt to spin it, it still shows MONEY BUYS CHAMPIONSHIPS... Georgie has done it over and over and over. Gemmy, I know you see it but you just don't want to admit to it.

    With all that considered, to brag and boast about regular season games is weeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaak.

    Twist that image

    And if I wanted you to know what an stown was, I would have let you know.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I'm sorry but I'm still laughing over this one..



    << <i>And let's not forget the fact that over at least the past nine years, the Yanks have made it to the World Series 66.6% (ironic number, isn't it??) of the time. >>



    To which you respond:



    << <i>stown, You are the one who is dancing in the dark.

    Sorry to take your 66.6% away from you but during the 10 years from 1995 to 2004, the Yankees didn't get to the World Series in 1995, 1997, 2001, 2002, and 2004. That's 50% of the time.

    Yeah 66.6%, fun with numbers for you. Or perhaps I should call it the twisting of the numbers. >>



    Pot, meet kettle image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • markglickermarkglicker Posts: 1,486
    Where they, of course, belong.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I'm sorry, what were you saying Gemmy?
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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