The article seems to point to the damage from toning coming from the fact that it is eventually dipped and the dipping removes some of the coins surface and possibly the luster.
Not that you would want to do this to an attractive coin (or perhaps any coin - depending on your views regarding cleaning), but placing a silver coin on a piece of aluminum (foil works fine), in water mixed with washing soda (or baking soda) will remove the sulfur "tarnish" (released as sulfur dioxide gas) and leave all of the silver behind - still on the coin. In essence, no damage to the coin. Shouldn't they have mentioned this in the article as a non-destructive dipping alternative?
Personally, I think colorfully toned coins are something special! That article doesn't seem to speak for the sector of collectors that use this forum.
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i dislike the article... but what i found humorous is that we have gone from one type of bias to another opposite bias opinion that has a ton of money in the game.
true? i think so.
"I must be another idiot for paying many multiples of sheet for beautifully toned coins."
not an idiot... just trendy at the moment. bragging about it does not help your case either... ;-)
Thanks for bumping this thread as I missed this one...
I stopped reading Coin World over a decade ago due to this same BS. CW almost every week between 1993-95 would rag on how toning in TPG holders was unstable and they hit this subject hard enough over and over again that it actually made the consumer collector and investor market completely paranoid towards patina. CW may be responsible for the Dip frenzy that was so fab in the 90's!
I was a lot younger then and would let this industry political propaganda raise my blood presure as it started to suck the fun out of the hobby. The worst part was I used to read CW in the office an I swear some of my fellow employees may have thought I suffered from Tourette syndrome!
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<< <i>Wow, this is an old thread !!! I forgot I even wrote this !!! But my opinion has not changed at all, of course.
Best, Sunnywood >>
Sunnywood;
I bumped this and the "Coin Chemistry" thread in light of the letter to the editor from Weimar White in the October 2008 issue of Numismatist. Same old diatribe again. I guess you should dip that 93-S Morgan before it suffers from any more "damage".
Hey, maybe they're just trying to juice the economy for folks to buy more dip.The coin market just might benefit from more dips buying dip,you know.
Don't you all be so quick to wag your fingers at this guy who wrote the CW article.Instead,recognize that some have a vision that many only dream to have.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
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Not that you would want to do this to an attractive coin (or perhaps any coin - depending on your views regarding cleaning), but placing a silver coin on a piece of aluminum (foil works fine), in water mixed with washing soda (or baking soda) will remove the sulfur "tarnish" (released as sulfur dioxide gas) and leave all of the silver behind - still on the coin. In essence, no damage to the coin. Shouldn't they have mentioned this in the article as a non-destructive dipping alternative?
Personally, I think colorfully toned coins are something special! That article doesn't seem to speak for the sector of collectors that use this forum.
collections: Maryland related coins & exonumia, 7070 Type set, and Video Arcade Tokens.
The Low Budget Y2K Registry Set
from one type of bias to another opposite bias opinion that has a ton
of money in the game.
true? i think so.
"I must be another idiot for paying many multiples of sheet for beautifully toned coins."
not an idiot... just trendy at the moment. bragging about it does not help your case either...
;-)
The LSD inspired monster toners on 2 year old coins is ....uhhh, shall we say distracting????
<< <i>"The appeal of beautifully toned coins belies the damage that has actually been caused to a silver coin's surfaces."
Sounds like something iwog would say......
Man, you're not kidding. Of course, he'd also add the word "elitist" in there somewhere.
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I stopped reading Coin World over a decade ago due to this same BS. CW almost every week between 1993-95 would rag on how toning in TPG holders was unstable and they hit this subject hard enough over and over again that it actually made the consumer collector and investor market completely paranoid towards patina. CW may be responsible for the Dip frenzy that was so fab in the 90's!
I was a lot younger then and would let this industry political propaganda raise my blood presure as it started to suck the fun out of the hobby. The worst part was I used to read CW in the office an I swear some of my fellow employees may have thought I suffered from Tourette syndrome!
Best,
Sunnywood
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<< <i>Wow, this is an old thread !!! I forgot I even wrote this !!! But my opinion has not changed at all, of course.
Best,
Sunnywood >>
Sunnywood;
I bumped this and the "Coin Chemistry" thread in light of the letter to the editor from Weimar White in the October 2008 issue of Numismatist. Same old diatribe again. I guess you should dip that 93-S Morgan before it suffers from any more "damage".
Don't you all be so quick to wag your fingers at this guy who wrote the CW article.Instead,recognize that some have a vision that many only dream to have.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
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