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POLL: What do you consider the first official United States coin?

ERER Posts: 7,345
The first United States coin?

Edited to add: explain your answer, if you don't mind.

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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    1792 Half Disme. It was the first coin struck under the constitution. The continental dollar was struck during the revolution, the Fugio cent was struck under the Articles of Confederation.
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭


    << <i>1792 Half Disme. It was the first coin struck under the constitution. The continental dollar was struck during the revolution, the Fugio cent was struck under the Articles of Confederation. >>



    But we were still the "United States" under the Articles of Confederation" were we not? The Fugio was issued by the authority of the United States board of treasury, so I vote Fugio.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,722 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1792 Half Disme. It was the first coin struck under the constitution. The continental dollar was struck during the revolution, the Fugio cent was struck under the Articles of Confederation. >>

    I couldn't have said it better. Mainly because I didn't know that level of detail. But I would have said half disme as it is what's in the RedBook.
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    I have a feeling I'm gonna' get a beating here.



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  • << <i>1792 Half Disme. It was the first coin struck under the constitution. The continental dollar was struck during the revolution, the Fugio cent was struck under the Articles of Confederation. >>






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  • wildjagwildjag Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I vote for the half dime.
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345


    << <i>I have a feeling I'm gonna' get a beating here.



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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    It would have to be the 1792 half disme. Although not struck IN the Mint, it was struck under the authority of the Mint, while the new Mint building was under construction two blocks away. The Mint Act of April 2, 1792 authorized the purchase of the land, the construction of the building, the hiring of the personnel, and detailed the denominations to be struck. The half disme was the first coin struck under this authority.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Define "coin", as that will markedly affect the correct answer.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1792 Half Disme. It was the first coin struck under the constitution. The continental dollar was struck during the revolution, the Fugio cent was struck under the Articles of Confederation. >>



    But we were still the "United States" under the Articles of Confederation" were we not? The Fugio was issued by the authority of the United States board of treasury, so I vote Fugio. >>

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  • mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    Gotta go with Fugio.

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  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557


    << <i>It would have to be the 1792 half disme. Although not struck IN the Mint, it was struck under the authority of the Mint, while the new Mint building was under construction two blocks away. The Mint Act of April 2, 1792 authorized the purchase of the land, the construction of the building, the hiring of the personnel, and detailed the denominations to be struck. The half disme was the first coin struck under this authority. >>

    I have to agree with Steve on this one image
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    One other point is the Fugio cent was contracted out by the Continental Congress. It was not struck by the US government.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The red book states: "The first coins issued by authority of the United States were the Fugio cents." Question for those that picked the 1792 half disme: is the red book wrong?

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to the redbook (2005, p. 69)


    (Note: spoiler down below, don't scroll unless you want to know what the redbook might say or you've already voted)




























    IX. The Fugio Cents
    The first coins issued by the authority of the United States were the "Fugio" cents.

    Incidentally, the redbook goes on to call the 1792 silver center cent, the 1792 Birch cent, and the 1792 half disme, disme, and pattern quarter the "First United States Mint Issues"
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>The red book states: "The first coins issued by authority of the United States were the Fugio cents." Question for those that picked the 1792 half disme: is the red book wrong? >>



    Just because something is printed in a book doesn't make it right. It's just an opinion, as we have expressed ours. My idea of the first US coin is one that not only was struck under the authority of the United States, but struck by the United States as well.
  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭
    However, some might argue that the 1792 half-disme is a pattern and wasn't truthfully intended for circulation. GIven it miniscule mintage, a case could be made for that in addition to the fuzzy circumstances under which it was struck....did they really use old George's silver service for the bullion?
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The red book states: "The first coins issued by authority of the United States were the Fugio cents." Question for those that picked the 1792 half disme: is the red book wrong? >>



    Just because something is printed in a book doesn't make it right. It's just an opinion, as we have expressed ours. My idea of the first US coin is one that not only was struck under the authority of the United States, but struck by the United States as well. >>



    You are answering a question different than the one asked. Also, the red book quotes the "Journals of Congress" documenting their assertion that the Fugio cents were the first coins struct under authority of the United States.

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The red book states: "The first coins issued by authority of the United States were the Fugio cents." Question for those that picked the 1792 half disme: is the red book wrong? >>



    Just because something is printed in a book doesn't make it right. It's just an opinion, as we have expressed ours. My idea of the first US coin is one that not only was struck under the authority of the United States, but struck by the United States as well. >>



    You are answering a question different than the one asked. Also, the red book quotes the "Journals of Congress" documenting their assertion that the Fugio cents were the first coins struct under authority of the United States. >>


    And that means by the United States as well.
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    I'm surprised quite a few voted for the Chain Cent.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do you consider the first official United States coin?

    too simple of a question as posed for an answer that begs for a more narrow focus. the Continental Congress made it's first attempt at coinage in 1776 with the Continental Dollar but it probably never intended them as circulating coins, more along the idea of patterns. before the Fugio's were struck the Continental Congress contracted for the Constellatio Nova silver and copper patterns. the Fugio Cent resulted in bankruptcy and scandal which was followed by the Washington tokens before the Mint was established and issued our first true circulating coinage.

    thus, the path to circulating coinage began with the Congress of the United States of America issuing the Continental Dollars and leading to the eventual establishment of a Mint to strike circulating coinage. if we consider Patterns as coins of the United States, the answer is the Continental Dollar; if not, probably the Constellatio Nova coppers, which circulated more as a token than as a coin. if we're talking about an issue struck by the U.S. Mint that was a circulating coin.........................
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    combination fugio cents and massachusettes half cents both dated 1787
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    It isn't but I chose the Continental Dollar.

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