They both feature Washington, are both silver proofs, are likely from the same submission (although not guaranteed), and they both feature similar toning patterns. Both received a grade of PR67, but Teletrade has the second coin mislabeled as a DCAM, when the holder states CAM. That is all I can tell you that I see in common. The rest is speculation.
Same "Artist". I've watched his work enter PCGS (exclusively) slabs over the last couple of months now. Could have been going on sooner- that's just when I started to notice it.
He had a couple of pretty Ikes with the same 'tells' sell for some pretty decent coin not too long ago.
Usually a couple of his coins are never together, in the same format, so locating these two during the same auction run on Teletrade was fun.
Most coin doctors have a signature look to their work. You can easily see the similarities with these 2 coins. This is why I never believe any of the stories I hear about a coin coming from a "Hoard" and thats why its toned in the manner it is.
To me -- "hoard" means the doctor was either too lazy or greedy or possibly both to release his work slowly so that it wouldnt be so noticed and he needed to think up a story to sell his AT coins.
<< <i>Pat what makes you think they are AT? You know that the more you can tell us, the more we can detect and avoid..right..// Tbig >>
The shade of blue (especially on that Washington...) is not seen in nature. The blend of the colors and the way they flow. The 'signature' pastel appeal...
The Lincoln looks the closest, the Commemorative, the least likely, but they're each, pretty, albeit, AT.
I'm somewhat surprised PCGS graded these all within the same submission. I wonder how many others are within this same grouping?
Those are some pan fried coins. Anyone can make those at home in just a few minutes, and it does not take much practice. Just place a cast iron skillet over medium heat and let it get hot. Then add the coin and let it set for about 2 - 10 minutes depending on what color toning you want. After you've done a few you can spot others right away.
Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
Here is an eight minute coin. Just fried it up a few minutes ago. The longer it stays in the pan the more reddish-gold color it gets. They first start to turn a kind of bluish color you can see in the bands then progress to gold, red, and finally solid burned black. One sure way to tell a fried coin is that both sides and the rim are toned.
Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
Hey Braddick- I was surfin the fleabay and noticed some familiar toning. Check out how similar the toning patterns are on this guy's coins compared to the ones you have shown: sellers link If not the same person, then I would wager at least the same AT technique. Very puzzling...
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<< <i>they're from the same submission, 6 numbers apart. >>
......and possibly "too good to be true"???
TPN
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>They're both AT?????
Same "Artist". I've watched his work enter PCGS (exclusively) slabs over the last couple of months now. Could have been going on sooner- that's just when I started to notice it.
He had a couple of pretty Ikes with the same 'tells' sell for some pretty decent coin not too long ago.
Usually a couple of his coins are never together, in the same format, so locating these two during the same auction run on Teletrade was fun.
peacockcoins
To me -- "hoard" means the doctor was either too lazy or greedy or possibly both to release his work slowly so that it wouldnt be so noticed and he needed to think up a story to sell his AT coins.
Thanks for posting this Braddick!
TPN
myCCset
Here's a THIRD Coin from the same artist!
peacockcoins
peacockcoins
You know that the more you can tell us, the more we can detect and avoid..right..//
Tbig
roadrunner
<< <i>Pat what makes you think they are AT? You know that the more you can tell us, the more we can detect and avoid..right..// Tbig >>
The shade of blue (especially on that Washington...) is not seen in nature. The blend of the colors and the way they flow. The 'signature' pastel appeal...
The Lincoln looks the closest, the Commemorative, the least likely, but they're each, pretty, albeit, AT.
I'm somewhat surprised PCGS graded these all within the same submission. I wonder how many others are within this same grouping?
peacockcoins
I'm shocked PCGS did not flag this submission immediately!
sellers link
If not the same person, then I would wager at least the same AT technique.
Very puzzling...