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Grade of this Nolan and a fair price?

orion9578orion9578 Posts: 385
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  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭
    Try scanning it with either the cover open or with a black background. I can really pick up the corners.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ryan
    Along with the scan...how about a little description? What does the surface look like? Are there any scuff marks or slight wrinkles on the back that we won't see on a scan?
    The card has nice centering - based on what I see...if no wrinkles or scuffing...probably like a 6?

    mike
    Mike
  • orion9578orion9578 Posts: 385
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    Better? Only thing I could find that was black was my godfather box set, lol.
    Ryan
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is tough to see the corners but the bottom two and top right seemed touched pretty good. Minus any surface and back issues I like that 6 too Mike .... where did you pick it up ryan?

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  • orion9578orion9578 Posts: 385
    Mike, I checked it out under the brightest lamp I have and I dont see any wrinkles or marks, front or back. As for a description I bought it recently from the local card shop guy. He had 600 dollars on it(100 higher then beckett even)but I talked him into selling it for 220(big jump in price I know, but we are buddies image )
    Ryan
  • orion9578orion9578 Posts: 385
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    I guess I didn't do bad..atleast I know mine is real, not trimmed and I barely paid more for it then the one in the link.
    Ryan
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    I would say 6 as well. I had one that looked very close to that. They sell in the $200-275 range but one with good centering like could get a little more.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ryan
    If you send it to PSA and it comes back a 6 - you will have one handsome card!!!

    I like it!

    mike
    Mike
  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭
    For $220 you did just fine. It is very well centered compared to most Ryans and you would likely make money selling it on Ebay.

    Scanning cards with no overhead light and the cover open gives you the best "black" background.

    I'd guess five or six, but those '68s are tough to tell in scans.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,582 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a high end 5 to me. Nice card!
  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a 6 to me.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    Nice centering for a Ryan rookie. I'd agree with those who say 6 if it had one more corner like the upper right. The way PSA is busting balls on mid-grade vintage these days, I think you're looking at 5. JMO.
  • goudeygoldgoudeygold Posts: 701 ✭
    I would say a mid/weak 5 due to corner wear all around. I don't see how that bottom left corner will get it into a 6 holder. I think PSA 4s sell in the 200-250 range, so you made out fine. Let us know what it comes back as!

    GG
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Very tough to go by a scan only, but all the corners show wear. 68's are tough, as the borders hide wear pretty well, until you loupe the corners. I bet you have a 5 there, but a 6 is a possibility if there are no creases in the card.
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  • orion9578orion9578 Posts: 385
    Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm hoping for a 6 but won't be upset if it gets a 5. Now I only wish I hadn't spaced out putting it in my last lot I sent for the May special. Now I get to pay shipping charges twice image.
    Ryan
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    FYI, here are the most recent sales on eBay. Keep in mind that centering is a huge factor on this card, and centering varies widely on these. There may be other factors (feedback, time auction ended, etc) as well.

    PSA 2 -- $103 -- SMR $70
    PSA 3 -- $133, $80 -- SMR $105
    PSA 4 -- $198 -- SMR $165
    PSA 5 -- $200, $235, $270 -- SMR $250
    PSA 6 -- $275, $280, $285 -- SMR $350
    PSA 7 -- $390 (reserve not met) -- SMR $550
    PSA 8 -- $949 -- SMR $950

    Based on this admittedly small sample, it appears people are paying "too much" for low-grade Nollie rookies, and PSA 6's can be had for "bargain" prices. This is based purely on SMR values, which is flawed because it uses a mathematical formula based on PSA 8 value, and that doesn't work for every grade level of every card.

    Maybe a Ryan tracker has a larger sampling of sale prices. This is only the last month.
  • orion9578orion9578 Posts: 385
    Thanks jrdolan, appriciate you putting that up for me. But I'm really more interested in if I got a decent deal. I will be keeping this card, and most of my cards for that matter. I do sale some on occasion(mostly the modern that I tend to waste my money on) but most of the cards I get are to keep. Thanks again everyone!
    Ryan
  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Based on this admittedly small sample, it appears people are paying "too much" for low-grade Nollie rookies, and PSA 6's can be had for "bargain" prices. This is based purely on SMR values, which is flawed because it uses a mathematical formula based on PSA 8 value, and that doesn't work for every grade level of every card.

    Maybe a Ryan tracker has a larger sampling of sale prices. This is only the last month. >>



    I'd say it's the formula. Crease free Ryan's are almost always $300 at shows.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭


    << <i>Thanks jrdolan, appriciate you putting that up for me. But I'm really more interested in if I got a decent deal. >>


    Well, a good way to see if you got a decent deal is to see what they are selling for in various grades. I wish I had a larger sampling, but the 5's and 6's in the past month haven't been too far apart in price. So either way it looks like you paid just about right if it grades at least a 5. That's factoring in a discount for buying it raw and the cost you will incur to get it graded.
  • goudeygoldgoudeygold Posts: 701 ✭
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5193710012&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

    This one looks like a strong 6 with centering being the issue. If your keeping it and not selling it, then it really doesn't matter. However, this one seems to be well worth the extra 50 bucks it would have cost you.

    either way, good price on a legendary card. But man are prices softening or what?! An EX-MT Ryan rookie for $275?!?!

    GG
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭


    << <i>either way, good price on a legendary card. But man are prices softening or what?! An EX-MT Ryan rookie for $275?!?! >>



    Yeah, weird, since the PSA 2 sold for 130% of SMR. Maybe the PS2 population is really small. image

    As I said, it's a really small sample, only a one-month glance at the market. I betcha one of the Nolanoids on these boards has big spreadsheet full of 68 Ryan sales.
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