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" The Road To The Championship "

By the Philadelphia Eagles

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  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    LOL we starting this early this year!! man i cant wait till september!!
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Appearances in four straight NFC Championship games for the Eagles. That ain't bad. No Super Bowl win yet but we're gonna take care of that this coming season.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    man I want the Eagles this year! Im losing the taste in my mouth of that back to back punking we handed out to close out
    the vet and to usher in Lincoln Financial.

    I bet Cowgirl fan wish they had that kind of dominance over the Eagles!

    can someone tell me when the last time an NFC East team other than the Eagles made it to the NFC Championship game?? I mean what
    was that the early 90's???

    Im thinking smack off 2004 is going to be special this year!

    JS

    GO BUCS!!!!
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Appearances in four straight NFC Championship games for the Eagles. That ain't bad. No Super Bowl win yet but we're gonna take care of that this coming season. >>



    Is that like Buffalo Bills fans taking solace in 4 straight super bowl appearances?
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoever faces the Eagles this year - Be afraid, be very afraid. The Eagles lost nobody of significance during the off season, and have some excellent players coming back from injuries. Plus they are hungry beyond belief. Gonna be lots and lots of double digit wins for the Eagles this coming season. I'm already predicting a double digit Super Bowl win for the Eagles. New England will not make it back to the Super Bowl - Brady got his fat contract and won't be as motivated, and they lost some good players.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i> - Brady got his fat contract and won't be as motivated, and they lost some good players. >>



    Who did they lose? Ty Law? The guy they played their last 9 games of the year?

    They should be concerned about losing their coordinators, but that coach is just brilliant...and Brady just knows how to win. If Indy can get the AFC championship game at home, I see Indy going to the big game...but the Pats OWN the Colts, plain and simple, and if the game's in NE, forget it.

    The NFC is a mess...while Philly didn't lose anyone of importance, they haven't picked anyone up, either. Most every other team in the conference, has though, so they will close the gap behind Philly a bit...how much remains to be seen.
  • The Boys will be NFC champs again!!! Tampa Gay had what 3 or 4 good years there entire history. The eagles will always be bridesmaids
    Go Cowboys!!!!!!!!!! image
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>The Boys will be NFC champs again!!! Tampa Gay had what 3 or 4 good years there entire history. The eagles will always be bridesmaids >>



    Yeah 3 or 4 good years...right

    NFC championship game in 79, 7 or 8 straight years of success in the 90s and 2000s, topped with a superbowl win.

  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990
    My Giants will be the Dark Horse. image
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Gemmy ahhh not tonite!! its yogi's day! congrats to yogi beING 80!

    MAN I LOVE THE SMACK TALKING ON THESE BOARDS! ONLY IF WE CAN GET STONE193 OVER HERE! HES A BIG RAIDER FAN!!! DONT THINK HE LIKES ARGUING ABOUT SPORTS ! IMO they had 1 awesome offseason! watch out for the silver and black next year!
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i> The shortest book in the world >>



    "How to be a Team Player" by Terrell Owens
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Kuhlman - agreed on your Raida's take ...

    stevek - well said.

    TO will be an Eagle, that is my opinion. The thing is, he turned a page for his career last season and then just recently dropped the ball. He had an outstanding season, and then came back from injury to put an MVP caliber performance in the Super Bowl. He may have been looking at a lot of endorsement money, but that just blew up in his face.

    I cannot see how these so-called knowledgable football fans can state the Eagles are done. They are the cream of the crop in the NFC, and will be as good this season.
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  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    You Eagles bashers enjoy your LSD and make sure you take it all before the season starts.

    We truly care about your well being and do not want to see you have a bad trip.

    See you in September.

    The Bucs go down - Gruden goes after '05.

    Dallas? - Parcells dyed his hair blonde again - need I say more?
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>You Eagles bashers enjoy your LSD and make sure you take it all before the season starts.

    We truly care about your well being and do not want to see you have a bad trip.

    See you in September.

    The Bucs go down - Gruden goes after '05.

    Dallas? - Parcells dyed his hair blonde again - need I say more? >>



    See us in September? Is that when you settle for winning your games and not in January? The Eagles will be the bridesmaid once again!
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    No Ax, the slaughter of the NFC East and the other lambs at the hands of the Eagles begins in September.

    Just like a Bucs fan to project and forget about the first 16 games of the season. image

    "What, it's January and we're not playing!?! What happened?"
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    Top shortest book -

    "The Bucs NFL Dynasty"

    or

    "How To Spend the Rest of Your Years Riding On the Coattails of One Good Season and a Former Coach"

    Publishing was halted midway through the 2003 season.

    Sales were very low - it seems there were not enough pictures to attract Bucs fans.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    And you STILL would trade all your years of just being almost good enough for Tampa's trophy (I don't care what you or any Eagles fan says - deep down you know it's true).

    I'll do a little recap for you:

    Lombardi Trophies:

    Tampa Bay 1









    Philadelphia 0000000000000

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< And you STILL would trade all your years of just being almost good enough for Tampa's trophy (I don't care what you or any Eagles fan says - deep down you know it's true). >>>

    Not only is this the most incorrect statement ever posted in this forum, but the most incorrect statement ever posted in recorded human history. Even those who believe the earth is flat, Santa Claus is real, and Elvis is still alive have more credibility than anyone who would post a statement such as this.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I wouldn't trade places with the Dallas Cowboys either, so there... image

  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    Trading places with the Cowboys would be akin to kissing your sister. Of course kissing your sister is something that most Cowboys fans know far too well. image

    As for trading places with the Bucs? Possibly, just possibly yes, right after they won the 2002 SB. Certainly not after the 2003 season, and most definitely not after the 2004 season.

    The Eagles have been more successful than the Bucs for the last three years. Wouldn't trade records for anything.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Top shortest book -

    "The Bucs NFL Dynasty"

    or

    "How To Spend the Rest of Your Years Riding On the Coattails of One Good Season and a Former Coach"

    Publishing was halted midway through the 2003 season.

    Sales were very low - it seems there were not enough pictures to attract Bucs fans.




    image
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Axtell, the Phillies have a World Series ring and have been to three World Series since the Mariners came into play.

    Do the Mariners have any?

    The Eagles, and the Phillies, will both win a championship before the Bucs win another one or the M's win their first.
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Trading places with the Cowboys would be akin to kissing your sister. Of course kissing your sister is something that most Cowboys fans know far too well.

    easy now i from new york. so that joke doesnt apply to this cowboy fan.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axtell, the Phillies have a World Series ring and have been to three World Series since the Mariners came into play.

    Do the Mariners have any?

    The Eagles, and the Phillies, will both win a championship before the Bucs win another one or the M's win their first. >>



    Funny how you bring up my M's into a football conversation....guess I shouldn't expect more from a Iggles fans.

  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Nah, just reminding you that you can cherish and gloat about the 2002 Bucs only so long ... before it gets old.

    The Bucs stink and have stunk for the past few seasons. Chuckie is over, and has always been overrated.
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  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>Trading places with the Cowboys would be akin to kissing your sister. Of course kissing your sister is something that most Cowboys fans know far too well.

    easy now i from new york. so that joke doesnt apply to this cowboy fan. >>



    You should be a Giants fan. I actually have a modicum of respect for them. The NY and Philly fans may have a tough rivalry, but everyone hates the Cowboys.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    all my friends werte giants fans. so i always routed against them. grew up idollizing tony d, so thats how it happened.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Nah, just reminding you that you can cherish and gloat about the 2002 Bucs only so long ... before it gets old.

    The Bucs stink and have stunk for the past few seasons. Chuckie is over, and has always been overrated. >>



    It's pretty funny that you say that the only reason the Bucs went to the super bowl was because of Dungy.

    Hey, who did the Bucs play that year? And who was their former coach? Using your own (flawed) logic, Chucky was the man responsible for getting the Raiders to the promised land.

    Always been overrated? He has a ring. Which is one more than Andy Reid. So what does that say about Reid?
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Which is one more than Andy Reid. So what does that say about Reid?

    He loves them cheesesteaks image
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< You should be a Giants fan. I actually have a modicum of respect for them. The NY and Philly fans may have a tough rivalry, but everyone hates the Cowboys. >>>

    I can second this. I've never had a problem with the New York Giants. Didn't like those years when they were beating up the Eagles, but always respected them. The Cowboys though are different. As everyone here knows, they even made a movie about the Cowboys, North Dallas Forty, illustrating the arrogance of that team's ownership which still exists even worse now with Jerry Jones. The Giants won with class, the Cowboys won with arrogance.

  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>the Cowboys won with arrogance. >>



    Yeah cause that damn Tom Landry was so arrogant!

    Look, I am by no means a cowboys fan, but they have a long, proud tradition of winning (something the Eagles could learn from). Yes Jerry Jones is obnoxious, but I don't see how an owner like him gets criticized while Steinbrenner gets a pass cause he's in NY?

    They are the same guy; they want the best for their teams, and are willing to spend as much money as they can to do it. While I dislike Steinbrenner and his whole wanna-be tough guy motif he tries to portray, I do admire his willingness to spend limitless cash on his team in order to win, and will do so until MLB gets smart and puts a hard cap in place. Jones is equally passionate and will go to any length to win. Both are obnoxious, and both sometimes try to be bigger than their teams.

  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    all due respect guys!! but do you think cowboys fans care if eagles fans respect us or not?? LOOK AT THE PICTURE!! THATS 5 YOU HAVE 0!
    Nuff said
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< Jones is equally passionate and will go to any length to win. >>>

    Possibly before as he got lucky hiring Jimmie Johnson who built that former winning team. Go to any length to win? Hiring deadheads like Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo and now a washed up Bill Parcells is not the way to win.

  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i><<< Jones is equally passionate and will go to any length to win. >>>

    Possibly before as he got lucky hiring Jimmie Johnson who built that former winning team. Go to any length to win? Hiring deadheads like Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo and now a washed up Bill Parcells is not the way to win. >>



    He got 'lucky' with Johnson? You mean the guy who was a force at Miami and was winning national championships? Yeah that was luck.

    Hey, how's Andy Reid worked out for you guys? How many super bowls has he picked up for the Eagle franchise?



    Get back to me when he has ONE.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< He got 'lucky' with Johnson? >>>

    Of course Jones got lucky. Or didn't you realize that Johnson and Jones were longtime friends dating back to when they were teammates playing college football at Arkansas. If Jones didn't know Johnson from Arkansas, he would have most certainly hired some other deadhead coach and the Cowboys history would have been much different. Jones got lucky but his luck has now run out!
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Look, I am by no means a cowboys fan, but they have a long, proud tradition of winning (something the Eagles could learn from).

    And the Bucs have a storied franchise smart guy?

    Oh, and gimme a friggin break on how great Chuckie is. I will remember to "come and talk to you" once Reid has his.

    Great coaches keep on winning right? Stalin, we know about the injuries, blah, blah, blah, so before you or Axtell start talking about em .... realize that all teams have em. Good coaches get around them.
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  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Jones got lucky but his luck has now run out!


    all that matters at the end of the football season is who wins! all i see the eagles keep doing is failing. without TO cowboys match up real well with the birds next year!
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    without TO cowboys match up real well with the birds next year!

    how do you know that? For the past seasons without TO the Eagles have whooped up on the boys. Bledsoe is about as mobile as the "Rocky" statue, but yet, that is somehow an improvement to the boys.

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  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    no the improvement to the boys is

    1. julius jones and the a train and marion barber
    2. yes bledsoe much better then vinny
    3. jason ferguson to help stop the run
    4. mark rivera makes 3 all pros on the line
    5. anthony henry improves our conerback posistion.
    6. our draft this year was awesome

    eagles did what this offseason to improve hmmm let me see DIDNT bother trading some of those picks for they really need a TRUE Running back!

    TO holding out will be a huge distraction in the media.

    your run at the top is done! check raiders they kept trying then failed in the big one, they were cr@p for 2 years, and now they will be better but not make the big games.

    Eagles had there chance its over. get ready for your superbowl hangover this year! 6-10!!

    Holy Cr@p guys its only May!! and we are getting worse then last year!!! LOL
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    Bledsoe is about as mobile as the "Rocky" statue, but yet, that is somehow an improvement to the boys.

    I find it funny that people always seem to want to talk about Bledsoes lack of mobility but ignore the fact that Mcnabb was sacked just about as much as Bledsoe was last year and don't forget that the majority of the Eagles attempts are of the shorter variety.

    Bledsoe att. 450 sacks 37

    Mcflabb att. 469 sacks 32
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Being mobile doesn't mean you are not going to be sacked (obviously), but being immobile means that a linebacker or other player is not going to have to be a "spy" and somewhat limit the defense. If McNabb rolls right and then left, and then gets sacked it does a lot more to the defensive prep than a guy who drops back and is no longer as effective as he once was as a pocket passer.
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    this year! 6-10!!

    what's the bet this year? The Eagles will win the NFC East again.

    By the way, the Raiders just got old when they crumbled, and the Eagles do not need a true running back. Under this current, SUCCESSFUL offense, the running back is going to be more of a receiver. The off season is not over yet, and Reid will adress the needs, which are not many.

    TO will not be a distraction. He is soon going to realize sometime in mid-August that he is not going to get paid.

    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    1420, i understand what your saying and Mcnabb does put alot more pressure on a D than Bledsoe with his capability of running the ball
    but for someone as mobile as Mcnabb he does seemed to get sacked quite a bit.

    Im hoping Dallas will pass block for Bledsoe this year because theres never been a ? about his arm and his ability to get the ball down field

    A qb's best friend is a talented running game and a good pass catching tight end. We have both. The last time Bledsoe had a tight end like Witten ( Coates ) he excelled
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Great coaches keep on winning right? Stalin, we know about the injuries, blah, blah, blah, so before you or Axtell start talking about em .... realize that all teams have em. Good coaches get around them. >>



    The 2 biggest things that have contributed to the Bucs' losing ways the past 2 years:

    (1) the draft picks given up by Tampa for Gruden...I am not going to lie...that has killed us. This year was Gruden's first draft with good picks available, and Cadillac will be a dominator for years.

    (2) the cap situation left to Tampa by McKay...backloading contracts, bad cap management. Allen and Gruden's biggest problems have been trying to move money around to alleviate this, but it's still an issue, and will be for a couple of more years. Why else would we need to resort to signing the likes of Ike Hilliard?

    As much as I want to say the Bucs will be back this year, I doubt they win more than 8 games. I say one more year, with another draft to build this team back up, and 06-07 will be the return of the Bucs to prominence.

  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Axtell dont be so sure on the cady man. there is a reason why brown was drafted over him. hes good but i dont see him coming into the nfl and dominating.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axtell dont be so sure on the cady man. there is a reason why brown was drafted over him. hes good but i dont see him coming into the nfl and dominating. >>



    It's obvious there's no such thing as a 'sure thing'....I think one of the most important attributes is having a team of solid, veteran players that know how to play the game. Tampa has a roster full of these types of players (Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, etc.) that will help mold a young player to escape the trappings of success and money.

    And I would think that having a player on your own roster who as selected what, 16th? and is doing quite well would know it's never about where you are picked.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    And I would think that having a player on your own roster who as selected what, 16th? and is doing quite well would know it's never about where you are picked.

    If your refering to julius jones he was a 2nd rounder like # 42. unless your going back a couple of years?
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>And I would think that having a player on your own roster who as selected what, 16th? and is doing quite well would know it's never about where you are picked.

    If your refering to julius jones he was a 2nd rounder like # 42. unless your going back a couple of years? >>



    No that's it...thought he was a first rounder, but my point is even better made that he was a second rounder. Where you are picked typically has little to do with your success in the league *points in the general direction of Tom Brady*

  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    I actually thought you were talking about Emmitt at first. Your right though, theres no way to tell how these guys will pan out untill they play the games
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