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Rip/Hold 75 Mini Box?

balco757balco757 Posts: 124
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I've been talking with BBC Steve about his 75 Mini Box (the GAI 8.5 box). We are working on a deal, as I love 75s, but wondered what you all thought. It's a pricey investment whether you rip or hold it and latest SMR is dropping hard for even PSA 9 stars.

I figured you really need to get at least 6 PSA 9s total out of Brett, Yount, Aaron 660/1, and Ryan. And, preferably several of Brett and Yount. Chances of 10s would seem very slim. 36 packs x 15 cards yields 540 cards - not even a chance for a full set.

Do you think 1400-1500 is fair? Would you rip or put away? I am sure I will rip, and won't that be a fun thread!

Appreciate your thoughts.

Steve
steve

Comments

  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Steve:

    Just like anything else in life - it's a gamble, and the pricing markets in this one favor the house. If you rip - do it for fun. Odds are you won't make your money back.

    It also appears as if your analysis did not include grading fees in making your money back.
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Agreed, you have to do what feels right to you. If you want the enjoyment of opening all those packs and seeing what happens then go for it, but remember opening old packs is like sex once you blow your load the fun is all over.

    Stingray
  • balco757balco757 Posts: 124
    Stingray,

    I knew there was some connection between 75 packs and sex, but could never figure out what. Thanks for that analogy.
    steve
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would certainly rip it. But that is me. I have been eyeballing that box too, if I was not so caught up in the 78's it might be gone now image Anyway good luck with what ever you decide and YES, that would be one killer thread to watch happen!!!!

    Dan

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Agreed, you have to do what feels right to you. If you want the enjoyment of opening all those packs and seeing what happens then go for it, but remember opening old packs is like sex once you blow your load the fun is all over.

    Stingray >>




    Then comes the regret?
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Agreed, you have to do what feels right to you. If you want the enjoyment of opening all those packs and seeing what happens then go for it, but remember opening old packs is like sex once you blow your load the fun is all over.

    Stingray >>



    not if you pull killer stuff its not over!!!! Don't forget that image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • balco757balco757 Posts: 124
    BTW, if you are going to rip, would you rather rip the GAI 8.5 box, or the ungraded box. I know that they are not tampered with, but it may be worth the extra $50 to crack open the GAI box. Do you think it matters?
    steve
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a rule, it doesn't pay to keep buying unopened packs from established dealers who clearly know the market values. It would be fun to rip once in a while, just expect that you'll lose money.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    fun aint over if you pop a blue!!!!!!

    Julen
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  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    Steve has picked up some really neat things as of late. Some rare OPC hockey boxes, an '86 football unopened vending case! And he's still got that '77 case.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    Rip it! Then sell me the cards I need for my set!
    Be careful with 75 minis. Multiple centering, tilt, short cut cards are a huge problem. I would enjoy ripping one myself but for that much money, I think there is safer wax to crack.
    Your chances of a PSA 9 Brett, Yount, Ryan, or Aaron are slim...but about 800-1000 for each if you get a 9. But if you hit a 9 on lets say a Rose, Bench, or Schmidt....expect about 300 for the card. Commons go for cheap.
    I think the odds are very much against you on the minis, but if you get a well cut box then you could do very well.
  • goudeygoldgoudeygold Posts: 701 ✭
    A PSA 9 Reggie Jackson sold for 50% of SMR last month. I saw a dealer that had toooooooons of 75 minis at the last chicago show and as I was looking through them I was amazed how they seemingly ALL were badly cut, and/or had print dots all over the place. With the box, I'm afraid they will likely ALL be one way or the other. Maybe open a few packs and see how they generally are, then decide what to do with the rest at that point. Very risky financial proposition, but again its how much opening wrappers is worth to you.

    GG
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would recommend buying unopened to hold.

    If I could afford it, I would consider buying something to open and see what I got. The thrill of the hunt - pulling a 9 or 10.

    As was already said, PSA graded abounds on ebay - the future right now is in holding if making money or investing is involved.

    Having said this - I still maintain: buy/collect for fun and enjoyment is the dividend. Anything else seems to involve too much work.

    mike
    Mike
  • flash2flash2 Posts: 100 ✭
    rip it if you must but chances are ,with grading fees,you will at best break even.just ripped 1979 topps cello,1982,1983 & 1985 fleer and donruss.taking time to get graded.got 2 ozzies and varies boggs ripken,etc. sent some in ,nat. ozzie is oc.best cards nolan ryan & bench 1983 fleer gem 10.again ,more fun than business.roll the dice.did ,however get some low population 9 & 10's.
  • balco757balco757 Posts: 124
    Allright boys, I just paid for the 75 Mini Box from BBCExchange. He threw in a 82 Topps vending box at my asking. Nice guy, Steve Hart.

    I think I need to be committed!!!!! I will anxiously await my box - and will be ripping it, of course.

    Stay tuned for a fun thread end of next week. I need to get a scanner.

    Steve
    steve
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Allright boys, I just paid for the 75 Mini Box from BBCExchange. He threw in a 82 Topps vending box at my asking. Nice guy, Steve Hart.

    I think I need to be committed!!!!! I will anxiously await my box - and will be ripping it, of course.

    Stay tuned for a fun thread end of next week. I need to get a scanner.

    Steve >>


    Looking forward Steve
    Nice "present" - an 82 vending? Not bad! Hope you get a nice Rip RC while you commence to "rip" the wax!

    Good luck!

    mike
    Mike
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    Rip it.....rip it good!
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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good Luck! I look forward to hearing about your experiences!

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Balco,

    I ripped a box from BBC and one from The Baseball Card Kid. Of the 360 cards in the Baseball Card Kid box I was able to grade 220 and received 54 PSA 9 (nq) cards back from PSA and 1 PSA 10. No card lower than a PSA 7. Most cards were PSA 8's. There is definately an off center/miscut problem that is commonly known to anyone dealing with these cards. The box from BBC yielded approx half the number of PSA 9's as the other box. It had about twice the number of off center cards as well. You maybe well advised by prior thread writer to open about 5 or 6 packs and then decide the general condition of the cards you see and decide if you want to rip the rest or sell packs individually? It could be that each box is either higher in centering or higher in miscuts? Others I've talked to feel this is true. One thing I will mention in hopes of getting a confirmation: In both my boxes, the Brett card showed up in the bottom row of packs in the box. Let me know if the same happens for you? Should you rip the whole box.....do it for the thrill....(and it is a thrill in my opinion image You probably won't get your money back on resale.....unless you happen to get a box that yields an Aaron #1, Gibson Highlight #2, Brett, Yount, Ryan, Schmidt, Aaron #660, or a card that has no PSA 9's yet.....there are approx. 24 of these cards in the set that have not yielded any PSA 9 (nq); Also any star card in PSA 10, the rest of these in PSA 9 would get you a profit on this box. This is of course a heavy long shot to pull off. But that's why your buying the box and ripping them in addtion to the thrill it will give you image Enjoy your moment and only submit the cards that you know will grade high. Start a raw set with the rest of the nicer cards by putting them into individual Card Savers. That's what I have done with mine. I probably submitted to many and thus I have a small collection of PSA 7's. But I was also on a quest for the #1 75 Topps Mini PSA Registered Set image Happy trails my fellow 75 Topps Mini fan image

  • balco757balco757 Posts: 124
    Mini Master,

    Thanks for the insights and good wishes. Box is supposed to arrive Wed or Thurs. I will be updating the ripping process and will check the bottom packs for the Brett. I will say that this purchase is not done with deep analysis or thoughts of profit. As Stone says, "Collecting should be for fun, first". While I hope to land a ton of sweet cards, the idea is to relieve the opening of my first box as a kid (75 Reg series, not Mini), not to turn a profit.

    I will indeed start a raw set and try to complete over time.

    Stay tuned.

    Steve
    steve
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    i received a pack today of 75t mini received from steve. i pulled a stargell and 73mvp rose/jackson that i will be submitting (should be 8's). the other 8 either had centering issues, fisheyes, or corner wear. the unopened box will probably yield better results.

    good luck and keep us posted.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    MiniMaster,

    Do you have any duplicate mini's? I need approximately 50 cards to finish my set. Feel free to email me at yankeeno7@aol.com

    Thanks
    Barry
  • JmnesqJmnesq Posts: 250 ✭✭
    If you pull a Schmidt you don't want to have graded, please let me know. Best of luck to you.
    Jeff

    Collecting Bowman Chrome Phillies Rookie Cards and Mike Schmidt certified auto cards.
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