A real estate treasure OH BOY

streeter

Look at these two little treasures that the seller has on the ebay funorama

3971573385

REAL OR FANTASY----you choose


Please let us know how it WORKS out.

stev32k

I like this part:

<<Q: Do you offer a 100% money back guarantee that this coin is authentic?
Apr-25-05
A: I cannot guarantee that these coins are authentic I do not know anything about coins. I have never had them checked. Bid at your own risk.>>

streeter

PDT 38 of 54
Okay, I was given a heads up on the coin discussion. I never knew about a discussion board on ebay until now. This could be a good thing.
I truely do not know a thing about coins. Don't care a thing about coins, If I did care I would be trying to search what you all are searching. I don't know where to start searching.
I really did find these two coins at an estate auction located on the corner of Stayton Road and Jackson Lane in Charlotte, TN. Auctioned off by Woodard & Associates out of Dickson, TN. They were taped to the botton of a chest of drawer and when I loaded the dresser I removed the drawer to make it lighter to carry.
I have not been on ebay for a while because I did not have a telephone at my house because I was an OTR truck driver and was never home so I used a cell phone only.
I threw these coins on ebay for one reason, to get rid of them. If they are real great for the buyer bad for the seller but on the next note if they are not real bad for the buyer and great for the seller. I am not stopping this auction to have them certified, authenticated or whatever you all want to call it. If you do not want to bid then don't. Someone might want these just because they are so rare whether they are real or fake. I don't want to see anyone have to buy junk but I am not making anyone bid on these items. I gave you the best pictures that I could give and have emailed several to other ebayers.
I don't have a problem with anyone wanting to see the coins in person, you can meet me at a local bank in my area or at the local police station.
I am not a rich person I am a just getting by person and I have never intentionally tried to cheat or steal my way through life.
Cassandra

PS
This is the ebay seller explaining the origins of her two listings. Might be worth a look

ebay 3971573385

rlawsha

Wow!

Link to auctions

flaminio

Cassandra, huh? Not the most trustworthy of names...

Russ

Might be legit and somebody might rip an excellent bargain. The half looks like the real deal to me, but I don't know about the dime.

Is Bill Jones around? He'd probably be able to tell if these are legitimate.

Russ, NCNE

Wekar

I wish I knew as much as some people around here and lived near Charlotte, TN, I would take up the offer to inspect the coin at the bank.

The story Streeter found is a decent example of a too good to be true story, but occasionally those stories do happen. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't following you.

What do you think it Grades? I don't even know enough to know how to grade these coins, I like VG10/12 details, but the reverse rims look gone and liberty is lower than 10? For $1225 (right now), if it's real, that would be one crazy RIP. Out of curiousity, anyone know bid/ask on a VG10 1796 half?

If it's real, I'll be bummed for a long time, the 1796-97 1/2 Dollar or Fifty Cents is a nightmare coin for my type set that I won't get to for decades probably.

streeter

This coin and auction is being discussed in many different places.

SMOEONE has to get to CHARLOTTE, TENNESSEE and inspect it.

Any NASHVILLE DEALERS out there?

Coinhusker1

The half does not look like the 1796 15 star pic in the Redbook -- the "96" is more upright on the auction coin. That could be a real variety, however.

We need some Overton gurus, stat!! OKBustchaser? JrGRMan??

ddink

Weird. According to PCGS price guide it's a $30k coin...yet this "I'm not a rich person I'm a just getting by person" doesn't want to send it to PCGS and spend $30 on the chance that it might be worth WAY more than they could get raw on eBay? Something just doesn't ring true about that.

On the other hand...nobody in their right mind would offer to allow people to inspect it in person if they KNEW it was counterfeit.

At any rate, couldn't you just buy it with a credit card and do a chargeback if it turns out to be a counterfeit? Not advocating that, btw, just a thought.

wjd283

Bust dime



Bust half

Baley

Hmmm... don't know enough about early dimes to comment on that piece,
but I am certain the half dollar is not genuine.

Genuine coin:



Comparing to the piece in question, on the obverse, her profile looks funny, the brow slopes a little too much. The 6 in the date is too high, in fact the whole date looks way too high, and also the position of star 1 is too high, the lower right point should point to the lowest curl. The lower right pont of star 8 should ppoint below the left serif of the L in LIBERTY. There are many other discrepancies.

On the reverse, the mouth of the eagle and his wings look funny to me. Star 9 points way too low on the Y, the lowere left point should point to just below the branch of the Y, at the stalk, not at the lower right serif as on this specimen. The stems of the berries appear much too thick, and the berries themselves too large. Quoting from Overton: "... a palm leaf is close to lower left serif of second T in STATES but does not touch.".. in fact most of the relationships among the leaves and letters are wrong. Look at the gap between the tips of the uppermost laurel and palm leaves, and the relationship of that gap to the letter E.

Could very well be a GM replica, expertly worn down and artificially toned.

weresteve

<< <i>Hmmm... >>



Could the half be a Gallery Mint repro ... the copy stamp would have been beneath the eagle's talons. Just wondering as they did a repro 1796 mint set ... have a few coins out of the set.

Steve

ddink

The ebay forums says it's not a gallery mint repro. Whether they are right or wrong, who knows, just FYI.

Theop

I live in Nashville.... but wouldn't know what to look for to authenticate the coin.

Where does it say the coin could be inspected at a bank? If someone was REALLY interested, I could contact the seller.

Nap

The half dollar is certainly fake.

Diagnostics include the lower curls of the hair (unless some serious retooling was done) and the date on the obverse, and berry position on the wreath of the reverse (this being an obvious one). Comparison to genuine specimens will reveal significant differences.

Nothing on the dime screams fake, but I am not that familiar with that series. Comparison to online images would suggest it may be genuine or at least a cast counterfiet from a real coin.

btmoore9

Interesting note...I read where it was stated that you could meet at a bank for inspecting the coin as well.....and when I just read Theop's last post I went back to BOTH of the items this person is auctioning and that part is no longer mentioned in the auctions. Just a little interesting bit

stev32k

Well, well both auctions have been pulled. They are no longer valid items.

pharmer

I was kinda hoping this one was legit, Cassandra seemed like such a nice cat nanny.