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ATTN: STOLEN PCGS MORGANS. Ctxt

I know this isn't the proper forum but I was just the victim of a follow home type robbery where several high grade PCGS Morgans were stolen. In a nutshell, I left my local coin store (I had taken several on my nicest green labels with me to show the dealer) While in the store,
I purchased about $2500.00 worth of stuff (mostly circ silver) I left the coin store and was apparently followed by 3 male Hispanics in
a white Mazda (with paper plates) In any case, these were high end coins that will probably end up for sale (I hope they don't
break them out). I have pictures and PCGS cert numbers for most of them. Here are the coins I remember off the top of my head.
I don't have some numbers or pictures as I just purchased them withing the last week or so (including 2 today)
I will add to the list after I complete an inventory. The coin store was located in Southern California. These coins are all green labels.
They also took a 200 or so circ Morgans/raw and PCGS graded gold. More info when I gather my thoughts and calm my nerves.
Craig Frick
THE FRICK COLLECTION


1879-S PCGS MS68 02510252
1880-O PCGS MS64 7114.64/4435974
1880-S PCGS MS67
1881 PCGS MS65
1881-S PCGS MS67
1882-S PCGS MS67
1886-O PCGS MS62 7168.62/2548355
1887 PCGS MS67 04153421
1887-S PCGS MS65 08348740
1895-O PCGS AU55
1897-S PCGS MS63 no cert/bought today
1897-S PCGS MS66 01604130
1904 PCGS MS64 no cert/bought last week

Comments

  • XXXXXX Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭
    What a Bummer. Hope YOU catch them before the police. I hate theives.
  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear this Craig.............but happy to hear you're ok. We'll keep an eye out for these and please post the cert numbers when you have the time to add them. With the group here I'm sure a few will be seen.....
    Steve

    Check out my PQ selection of Morgan & Peace Dollars, and more at:
    WWW.PQDOLLARS.COM or WWW.GILBERTCOINS.COM
  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    and post this on the coin forum also.......more will see it there !!
    Steve

    Check out my PQ selection of Morgan & Peace Dollars, and more at:
    WWW.PQDOLLARS.COM or WWW.GILBERTCOINS.COM
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    PM Sent......Being just north of you, I can help keeping an eye out in No. L.A. co., Ventura Co., & So. Santa Barbara Co.
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Craig: I am very sorry to hear about this. As Steve mentioned, I am glad to hear that you were not physically harmed during the robbery, although you are quite understandably very shaken up (I would be too).

    I hope that these criminals are caught and that they throw the book and lots of jail time at them!

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    Also saw this posted a few minutes ago on the CCE so please take the time to let the dealer know the cert #'s and any additional information also so he can get it out asap on the network......
    Steve

    Check out my PQ selection of Morgan & Peace Dollars, and more at:
    WWW.PQDOLLARS.COM or WWW.GILBERTCOINS.COM
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I would sell a few coins and buy a BFG!!
    theknowitalltroll;
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think I would sell a few coins and buy a BFG!! >>

    But this is California, we're not allowed to protect oursselves.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << I think I would sell a few coins and buy a BFG!! >>

    But this is California, we're not allowed to protect oursselves.

    Yeah!! What a sad state of affairs. I guess yer sposed to let the authorites or po-leese handle it but its a little late AFTER the scumbags got yer stuff. Sorry to hear about yer loss Craig. Hope you get it all back.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    Unless your a seelebratee, then you can kill your spouse. image

    JMHO of course. image

    Getting back on track, Craig, I'll PM you on other idea's.
    image
  • FrickFrick Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    Here is some additional info. Suspects are 3 light skinned, short haired male Hispanics. They were driving a newer white vehicle.
    Can't tell you if it was 2 or 4 door. It had paper plates front and back with MAZDA on them. Not sure if the vehicle was a Mazda or
    not. The plates might have been put on the car to make me THINK the car was a Mazda. I figure they were in the parking lot and
    saw me walk out with a large canvas bank bag (marked with the shops name) and figured I had something of interest. The coin
    shop was Liberty Coin in Signal Hill so you Southern California folks be aware. My money says these guys may try this again.
    Also, here are a couple of links to some of the coins that were stolen. I just got the 1887-S MS65 in the mail yesterday and now
    it's gone. Damn shame....Craig Frick.... THE FRICK COLLECTION(S)

    1887 PCGS MS67
    Link Here

    1887-S PCGS MS65
    Link Here
    (Didn't sell on Ebay but I emailed the guy and bought it. I have proof)
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was anything/everything insured? Chances are these guys won't know how to unload the stuff so that might help.
    theknowitalltroll;


  • << <i>The coin shop was Liberty Coin in Signal Hill so you Southern California folks be aware. >>



    Thanks for the info -- I do shop there and will be more careful. Signal Hill is nice, but its right next to Long Beach which is full of crime.

    I really do hope you get your coins back. Did you alert Jim @ Liberty? These guys might be dumb enough to try and fence the goods there!

    Keep us posted!

    image
    TPN
  • FrickFrick Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    No insurance. That will change for the rest of my collection. Also, here are my thoughts as to how these guys will sell the coins.
    They will probably go to a coin shop far from the area, say their "grandpa" or "uncle" died and left them these coins. They will
    sell them for cash on the spot. If I can let as many dealers know as possible, they can call 911 while these guys are in the shop.
    If it's a crooked dealer, he may just crack them out and resumbit them. Both the 1880-O MS64 and the 1886-O MS62 were a lock
    for upgrades. The 1880-O jumps to 15k in a 65. I hope that doesn't happen.
    Craig....
  • 7summits7summits Posts: 316 ✭✭
    My thoughts -

    Before you get insurance for coins, or for theft, be sure to read the fine print. I 'thought' I was covered for theft but when I reported to my insurance agent that my wife had been pick-pocketed he told us our policy did NOT cover us. image especially after waiting at a police station for over 4 hours to file a report that as of this date we've heard nothing back (not even a courtesy call).

    Also, in the past when I checked out what it would cost to insure numismatic items against loss from my home the rates were SKY high.

    So, I stay as invisible as possible, shred all coin-related documents that I am discarding, use a PO box, keep all but base coins in SD boxes, don't display my collections to guests, don't give out my name at coin shows, etc. etc. I live in a region where one of the biggest employers in the county is the prison system - we have a local / county / state / federal prison complex area topping 5,000 acres or more - what does THAT tell you about crime? image
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I heard today that back in the 70's someone had gotten hold of the membership list from the local coin club and robbed each and every one and for that reason many old timers are reluctant to join.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    ttt
    Steve

    Check out my PQ selection of Morgan & Peace Dollars, and more at:
    WWW.PQDOLLARS.COM or WWW.GILBERTCOINS.COM
  • FrickFrick Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    ttt
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    I presume no new news. image

    Any info on the other cert #'s? image
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  • FrickFrick Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    Nothing yet. Total loss is around 40k. I don't even care if I get the circ silver and gold back. I just want my PCGS Morgans!!!!
    I will be in touch with the police today with the cert numbers/pics/etc. I will also be contacting the local coin/pawn shops so they can
    be on the lookout for these coins. I suspect the guys will try to move these quickly. More info as it becomes available.

    Also taken were 8 gold type sets (2 1/2,5,10,20) 4 Lib sets and 4 Indian/Saint sets
    180 circ Morgans in a white bank bag marked Liberty Coin Shop
    Plust what I listed previously.
    Thanks for all of your help, support and kind words.

    Craig Frick....

  • Craig sorry to hear about your coins. Glad you are ok though. I will keep an eye out for those numbers.
    Stacy

    Sleep well tonight for the 82nd Airborne Division is on point for the nation.
    AIRBORNE!
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    Craig, this really stinks. I hope the perpetrators get caught and you recover your coins.

    Could you explain how they approached you? Did they use guns, knives, or what? I ask this because there are a lot of members here who frequent shops in that area, and detailing these creep's MO would be a good thing to do to put others on guard.
  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Following people back to their homes or from their place of business is a common tactic used by perps, but you usually don't go through life looking over your shoulder so you wouldn't notice.

    If everyone would keep this thread near the top and copy the property list and give it to at least two dealers--YOU NEVER KNOW.........

    get the property list circulated. The only way those thieves would get away with this, logically, is if it was a preplanned heist and Frick was specifically targeted---which might make sense.

    Normally, three hispanics in an unlicensed car do not go house hunting on the Palos Verdes Penninsula. Frankly, I'm kinda suprised they were not stopped with no plates.
    Have a nice day
  • TopdollarpaidTopdollarpaid Posts: 599 ✭✭✭
    ttt
    Randy Conway

    Www.killermarbles.com

    Www.suncitycoin.com
  • Just a word about insurance. I have looked into that possibility and have decided you can not afford it. The priice quoted by my insurance carrier was $ .50 on the dollar per year so a 100K collection is 50k per year. Dont think that duck will fly.

    Don
  • TopdollarpaidTopdollarpaid Posts: 599 ✭✭✭
    ttt
    Randy Conway

    Www.killermarbles.com

    Www.suncitycoin.com
  • FrickFrick Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    ttt
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