Think I May Have A 'Hog Money' Shilling....
coachleonard
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Posted this on the lightside forum, but since this coin crosses both boundaries, thought i'd post here too.
It was one of 15 heavily corroded coppers that were dug up near Gloucester, MA. Among those coppers was a Coronet Hd large Cent, a George II Halfpenny, a few William III halfpennies, and a few coppers that were completely unidentifiable (probably British 1/2P or maybe state coppers). But one piece was VERY different-- it was copper or brass, VERY thin and lightweight, hammered but still round-ish, a tad larger in diameter than a British halfpenny, and about 40% of it broken off in jaggedy fashion. Even for a 1700's counterfeit it was way too thin and lightweight.
I know there could still be a lot of possibilities BUT, placing it on a Redbook plate of a Sommers Island Shilling, it fits like a glove; it was found near America's oldest seaport (founded 1623) thus could easily have been brought up from Bermuda by a sailor. I can make out virtually nothing as it is so worn and corroded--- on one side is what COULD be the bow of the sailing ship, on the reverse is what COULD be an 'S' next to a dot and what could be an 'M' further down, and what COULD be the lower shape of the hog legs. I've examined it every which way but loose but I still can't come up with the conclusive evidence I need. DANG IT-- I want to know!! Not sure if there's anything more that can be done-- just wanted to vent. Is my theory completely deluded?
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It was one of 15 heavily corroded coppers that were dug up near Gloucester, MA. Among those coppers was a Coronet Hd large Cent, a George II Halfpenny, a few William III halfpennies, and a few coppers that were completely unidentifiable (probably British 1/2P or maybe state coppers). But one piece was VERY different-- it was copper or brass, VERY thin and lightweight, hammered but still round-ish, a tad larger in diameter than a British halfpenny, and about 40% of it broken off in jaggedy fashion. Even for a 1700's counterfeit it was way too thin and lightweight.
I know there could still be a lot of possibilities BUT, placing it on a Redbook plate of a Sommers Island Shilling, it fits like a glove; it was found near America's oldest seaport (founded 1623) thus could easily have been brought up from Bermuda by a sailor. I can make out virtually nothing as it is so worn and corroded--- on one side is what COULD be the bow of the sailing ship, on the reverse is what COULD be an 'S' next to a dot and what could be an 'M' further down, and what COULD be the lower shape of the hog legs. I've examined it every which way but loose but I still can't come up with the conclusive evidence I need. DANG IT-- I want to know!! Not sure if there's anything more that can be done-- just wanted to vent. Is my theory completely deluded?
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
look at tlhoy's thread on this page-- THAT'S what i think i have. But mine doesnt look anywhere near that good
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
I know several have been found in Bermuda, by detectorists. Often they didn't fare so well in the ground.
I would love to see pictures of this, even greyscale ones, if you could scan it in a way that would coax a little detail out. (I know it would be hard to do).