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anyone know what the second coin is???

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  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a Canadian 'Blacksmith Token'.
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    Josh Moran

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  • i think your particular brass token is known as a Canadian "Tiffin Token" (not sure where that name comes from). But they all feature pretty crude artwork, so they may also fall under the "blacksmith token" heading.
  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭
    It is indeed a Canadian "Tiffin" token.

    Joseph Tiffin was a Montreal grocer. He imported lightweight copper 1/2d tokens from England that were antedated 1812. The token was made from dies originally engraved by Thomas Halliday. The brass tokens are imitations of the original coppers, i.e. contemporary counterfeits of an antedated copy (ooh, the irony of that).

    This token is catalogued by Charlton as LC48 with 11 major varieties, also known by Breton #'s 960 + 961. There is a new extensive catalogue on the market authored by researcher Greg Ingram listing known varieties at about 40.

    Gene

    BTW: yours appears to be LC48C2, Breton 961 valued at $5C in VG.
    Gene

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