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QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭
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I have a 73 topps Pin up-it is a pretty rare issue-it is labeled with the "OC "--I have seen a couple cards (wrappers) from this set and they are all printed off center on purpose-the left margin is larger to allow for 3 dots of glue, so it can attach to the other side when wrapped around a stick of gum. I was wondering if PSA knows this and mislabeled this years ago without a good knowledge of the set-do you think they would crack it out and re slab the card for free without the OC? Thanks Scott

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  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    Do you have a scan so we could take a look?
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  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭
    I just tried to add a scan-can you walk me thru it-I was unsuccessful Thanks scott
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  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Email me the scan, and I will post it and give a walk through.

    jeffdabney@gmail.com
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Quitcrab -

    Looks like you had it right - you just need to shrink it down to either 50k, or host it elsewhere. I'll throw up a bigger scan from my website in a sec. After you attach it to the file, post it, then click onthe attachment in your reply. When the attachment pops up in the new window, copy the url in the new window, edit your post, and just click the "add image" box. Your attachment and the pic will both appear. At least, that's how I've always done it.

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  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Looks like I can't host from my site - pic is at the following link for anyone who cares.

    Robinson Pin Up

    Real nice card btw - I will have a Ryan one day, and you're right, they were all printed OC. Check out the Mastro set from their last auction.
  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭
    I sent you the scan Thanks scott
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    Scott,
    I agree with Jeff. Your card looks fine. They all look like that. Here's a link to Goodwin's Robinson:

    1973 Topps Pin Ups Brooks Robinson
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  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the link to Goodwin-So do you think psa would change it to a new holder with out the OC-Does PSA admitt to mistakes like this ? I mean the card is off center but it is suppose to be off center ! Thanks scott
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    They might ALL be off-center, but off-center they are. The centering of this one certainly isn't within PSA's criteria for an unqualified 9. I think they got it right.

    1971 Milk Duds almost always have chocolate stains on the reverse, but that doesn't mean PSA should overlook it and leave off the ST qualifier.

    OC or not, your B.Robby pinup makes me drool. image
  • DS1991TOPPSCardsDS1991TOPPSCards Posts: 127
    I don't know... maybe I am too new at this... If they all were made to have the left border wider than the right border why would PSA state its OC.? If it was 50/50 wouldn't that make it OC? Since the company wanted/made the left border wider than the right border, it’s not OC. I agree with Scott and bet the grader didn't know they were all made that way.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They might ALL be off-center, but off-center they are. The centering of this one certainly isn't within PSA's criteria for an unqualified 9. I think they got it right. >>



    Can't agree with you on this one JR - if the left border is meant to be wider than the right border, then it is not a centering issue. A chocolate stain is after the fact with a Milk Dud card; the intentionally wider left border is the fact. Calling that o/c is like downgrading '51 Topps Red Backs for having rounded corners.
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  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭


    << <i>Calling that o/c is like downgrading '51 Topps Red Backs for having rounded corners >>



    Great anaolgy - I agree 100%
  • TimeMachineTimeMachine Posts: 261
    That '71 Barrat's Muhammad Ali card is a good example of what morrelman and mudflap are talking about... they were all apparently supposed to have larger right borders than left, hence PSA 9 NQs appear way off center but are in fact centered as to the intent of the company producing them. Anyone here know about what card I am referring to?

    Has PSA graded enuff of them to know that the uneven borders were Topps' intent? Maybe they have not...
  • DS1991TOPPSCardsDS1991TOPPSCards Posts: 127

    What was the reason for this to be off center?

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    Scott stated the left margin is larger to allow for 3 dots of glue, so it can attach to the other side when wrapped around a stick of gum. I can see how his card was suppose to be off center.
  • TimeMachineTimeMachine Posts: 261
    I do not know but every one of those Alis I have ever seen looks exactly like the example you have provided. I don't claim to know why Barrat decided to design the card the way they did, only that I have seen many PSA 9's with the exact same centering as your scan... obviously, PSA is aware of this and grades the card accordingly, I would think they would be aware of the Topps' intent as well with their pin-up cards.

    maybe, just maybe dabighurt can shed some more light on why PSA apparently doesn't know as much as a private collector...
  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭
    What about a card like the 1974 topps puzzle of Nolan Ryan-it has "never" been seen with a border on the right side-it is always off center -way off-does psa take this into consideration when grading this card ? has anyone had one graded ? Another card that comes to my mind is the 1972 Aaron in action-finding that centered is very tough too...........thanks for all the great coments-Scott
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Quitcrab,
    Have you discussed this with PSA? If theres an error, they will fix it.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭


    << <i>Can't agree with you on this one JR - if the left border is meant to be wider than the right border, then it is not a centering issue. A chocolate stain is after the fact with a Milk Dud card; the intentionally wider left border is the fact. Calling that o/c is like downgrading '51 Topps Red Backs for having rounded corners. >>


    Well, I must concede that is a pretty good point. I assume someone has tried (unsuccessfully) to convince PSA of that.
  • Kid4hof03Kid4hof03 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scott,
    Great pinup! What a beauty.

    My guess is that if you took this to a show and explained it that it would get changed. PSA does a good job of grading 1969 decals and they are cut the same way.

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