The only PCGS graded FB 83P Roosie on ebay
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Rick just listed his 1983P MS66FB Roosie on ebay. This is the only 1983P that PCGS has graded
with the FB designation. Here is the Link
with the FB designation. Here is the Link
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and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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mint sets. My guess is that he is selling off all his Roosies not in his date set and mint sets. I noticed
all the coins in his date set are "D" mint coins. Kind of like shifting to the 50 piece commem set over
the 144 piece set. I think Rick just shifted over to just doing the date set.
Nick
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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got to frustrating for him after (IMHO) PCGS decided to change there FB policy. There
are a lot of clad dimes out there in FB holders that if cracked out would not come back
FB today. PCGS set the standard early on as only requiring a separation between the
bands no mater how slight. It doesn't seem like that same standard applies today.
Its hard to make coins for your set when you were working off one standard and then
all of the sudden that standard is gone. Of course this is all just my opinion.
Nick
Collectors have migrated away from the series creating an abnormal supply of coins vs. demand this past year. Yet, the fact remains that, IMHO, the coins are among the toughest post 1965 moderns to locate in spectacular high grade. How long can this situation last before astute collectors start accumulating the ultra tough Roosies that hit the market? Indeed, even the most astute collector/dealers (like OnlyRoosies) have already publicly stated that they are quietly gobbling up the great coins when they hit the market and are offered at (relatively) depressed prices.
On the other hand, unless a collector has a long term horizon, there are obviously quite a few more "exiting" series to partipicate in these days. And, for the collector who enjoys making his own coins and selling off dupes to help fund the collection, moving away from clad Roosies may make total sense as well.
It should be interesting to see where the series goes over the next couple years.
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are if you include the FB designation but they constitute the only modern which are suf-
ficiently available in gem to supply a mass market. There are as many as 100,000 of many
of these in gem and none are especially scarce (< 5,000).
While this situation may be frustrating to those who wish to assemble top tier sets it is
ideal for promotion or speculation. It is also a great set for collectors since gems sets can
be assembled very cheaply with much less effort than the other moderns. There are other
opportunities and challenges in this series including the possibility of a complete PL set and
the relative ease of a complete mint state variety set. ( Or so it seems to someone who
hasn't thoroughly studied the denomination.)
I like the dimes and the '83-P might be the key to this series above MS-64 or so.
I've been buying/trading with him recently and that guy is first class.
RR
Today is a sad day, another top Roosey set is gone forever. This set to me was the and will be the best clad Roosevelt set ever created. My reasoning for this is that this collector put his heart and soul into the roosevelt dime clad series and made most of the really tough full band coins. Rick I salute you for a job well done and hope someday you will return to the series. Fred
e-mail I just received from him. I thought it would be appropriate to post it because
it is more a reply to all that have posted here.
Nick, lots of chatter on the message board about the 83P. There are several reasons I got out of dimes, nickels, Kennedy halves and quarters:
I want to concentrate on one collectible: Liberty Head Double Eagles. I am angry at myself for selling off at a huge profit what today would be a top five all time great set and current number one. I don't expect to ever get back to that set, but having the clad and silver coins which will never be really great sets, I am going to sell them off, probably between now and the end of 2005.
I wanted to get an all FB Roosie set and probably would, if PCGS considered FB plain old split bands on top and bottom: That means the split does not have to be the Grand Canyon of dimes but maybe more like a gully.
I like Roosies and I am not playing the blame game, but I should have simply tried to put together a 67 and 68 set and let it go at that. That's the way I started out in 2001, but got caught up in the FB craze--it was fun and above all challenging.
As Goldfinger said in the Ian Fleming story: "Mr. Bond, all my life I have been in love, I have been in love with gold. I love its color, its brilliance, its divine heaviness...I have worked all my life for gold...I ask you..is there any substance on earth that so rewards its owner?"
Also, my wife has golden hair.
Rick.
is the highest price paid for a 66FB Roosie. Looking to the future this may turn out to be a bargain.
Nick
When Rick finds out the prices on some of those $20 Libs he may come right back!
I get bummed when I see a top notch set fall, especially a set of this caliber. Its totally up to that person as to why they want to change directions and go another path, and I will respect whatever that person decides to do.
Rick is a great collector and I believe even though he wants Gold, he will never leave Clad!
One more for the road....Personally I would search for a long time for a coin like this before I would pay a grand for it. A 68FB...yes, a 66FB...no, but that is just me.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.