1883 V nickel..no cents...DDR?

whitebuffalo

I have tried to get a good enough picture for the viewing public, but cant on my camera. Does anyone know anything about a DDR Liberty Nickel? The doubling is pretty obvious in "States of America" and on the right edge of the wreath on the right side. Any information would be GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks!!

TommyType

From the book "Shield & LIberty Head Nickels", by Peters and Mohon:

Variety# 19.3: 1 tripled, showing primarily in serif to south; First 8 to right; Second 8 to north; 3 to left. Die crack runs from tip of bust downward through date to rim. Rev. Recut legs on AM(ERICA), AM touch.



That's the only one they list with any doubling on the reverse. No pics, except for the date doubling described. (Incidently, their variety 19.4 appears to have the exact same date doubling and die crack....I guess this implies that the same obverse was paired with a non doubled reverse???)

It looks like the die crack through the date might be easy to identify, even on a circulated coin. If yours has the crack, it might be this variety.

Hope this helps.
Tom

whitebuffalo

Hmmmmm...This one has a die crack from the point of the bust that goes straight left to the dentils, one that goes from the dentil left to the bottom left serif of the 1 then the right serif to the bottom left of the first 8. One coming form the 9th star to the 10th then to the dentils...and several others. IMHO this coin would be a very high mint state, but is a weak strike. The fields are pristine. I see only two marks that could be bumps from another coin but they are very small even under 10X magnification. Tommy Type, I GREATLY appreciate you looking the afore mention info for me!! Thank You!!!! And thanks for serving!!!

5/87th INF Light Panama here.

Sorry, should read one that goes from the dentils RIGHT to the bottom left serif of the one. And the date doesnt appear to have any doubling.

whitebuffalo

Here are the pics I could get..sorry not good enough to really see the doubling...

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whitebuffalo

Well, here is what I have found thats seems to best fit this coin.


1883 Liberty Head Nickel (No Cents)
K05-34.3 Doubled UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
SPADONE

Now that I know what variety it is....anybody have an idea of its value? Thanks!!!

dbldie55

Look up the price for a regular 1883 and multiply by 1.

whitebuffalo

Well the site is very informative and thanks for posting a link to it , but it doesnt have this variety listed either, not just by the variety number I gave, but it doesnt have the description either for the year. So I will continue to try and find more information by other means multiplied by 1.

dbldie55

All of the ones I have seen were machine doubled. I know of no official DDR for the date.

whitebuffalo

Ok, thanks for info. I have been to a few site regarding the differences between machine doubling and doubled die. Ofcourse my information and knowledge is very limited, and I am probably wrong....but it doesnt appear, based on the examples I have seen , to be machine doubled. Doesnt look mushy or drawn out, all edges are sharp. Who knows!?!? LOL

whitebuffalo

Learning more and more everyday!!!! I do believe this is probably machine (strike) doubled and not a doubled die. Found a great online paper that give alot of great examples and descriptions that help take the confusion out of the different doublings that occur.

MAD4MORGANS

<< <i>Found a great online paper that give alot of great examples and descriptions that help take the confusion out of the different doublings that occur. >>



OK, so share!!

whitebuffalo

LOL sorry. Started a new thread about it, but here it is ...


http://www.cherrypickersguide.com/die doubling.htm

TommyType

Mad4Morgans: PM sent

I'm pasting parts of my response to you in case it's useful to others:

Here are the 5 varieties listed in the book I'm referencing. Varieties are covered only minimally, and pictures only contain the date:

19.1: Doubling on 1 to left anf second 8 in upper bowl to left and lower inner loop of 3 to left. 1 is doubled at serif south and line in foot of 1 shows remnant of doubling south. 2nd 8 has doubling in upper bowl. 3 is doubled slightly to left.
(My comment: The only doubling noticable in the photo is the upper serif of the 1, and a slight mark in the base of the 1. The 1 is very close to the truncation of the neck, nearly touching it. No cracks visible in picture.)

19.2: 1 shows repunching to left and south; 2nd 8 shows slight doubling to south.
(My comment: Very little doubling can be seen in the picture. 1 is a little farther from truncation of the neck than 19.1. No cracks visible in the picture)

19.3: 1 tripled, showing primarily in serif to south; First 8 to right; Second 8 to north; 3 to left. Die crack runs from tip of bust downward through date to rim. Reverse: Recut legs on AM(ERICA), AM touch.
(My comment: Doubling in picture noticable on serif of 1, and very visible on top of second 8. Die crack enters 1 just above upper serif, passes nearly through the center of first 8, runs through bottom loop of second 8, runs along bottom of 3.)

19.4: 1 triple punched south, corrected north; 2nd 8 punched north, corrected south.
(My comment: As I noted, this looks like the same obverse as 19.3. Crack is identical, and doubling again noticable in picture only on serif of 1, and top of second 8).

19.5: Doubled obv. die. Doubling plainest on LIBERTY. (No picture printed).

Don't know if this will help anyone or not. ....But since I typed it once already, it can't hurt!

Tom

MAD4MORGANS

Thanks Tom!! Here are the photos of my MS-63 1883 "No Cents" in case someone notices what variety it might be.