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Bradshaw PSA auction WTF?

BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
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I've been looking to pick this card up in a PSA 7 and it usually sells between $140 and $170. Then this one ends last night

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5178432874&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

What happened here? Is this a shill bid? I'm afraid for the winner that he decided he would own this card no matter what, and put in a high bid to make sure he would win, thinking even if he paid $180 he got a nice card. Problem is, someone else might have done the same thing.



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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,586 ✭✭✭✭
    That's a very nice 7, especially the centering. Plus the seller put the word "killer" in the subtitle. That's always good for a 20% bump...just kidding.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • Fletch1750Fletch1750 Posts: 199
    A GAI 8.5????
    I love candy cards
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Bradshaw PSA

  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    That was a very nice example for a PSA 7. Excellent centering and it looked really nice. Might be able to garner an upgrade, but definitely "worth" more than an ordinary PSA 7. The seller's Payton RC was also very nice and received strong bids.

    I think more people need to focus on the qualities of the particular card they are buying rather than simply cross-referencing the grade with the price listed in the SMR.

    For example, I paid over SMR on a '66 Sayers RC in PSA 8, when another PSA 8 just sold a few days earlier for well under SMR. The difference was in the quality of the card. I gladly paid more because I find it to be an exceptional card for the grade.
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Southsider, that arguement makes perfect sense to me up to a point. I think it makes perfect sense to pay a premium for a higher quality card, perhaps 10-20%. My shock here was that this card went for 200% of what the card usually sells for. And I personally think this is extreme. I buy cards when I can afford them as a collector but I always try to make a good buy as well, it helps me explain to my wife the "investment". And if you pay $300 for a Bradshaw in a PSA 7, it'll be a LONG time before you can get your money back on that one, IMO. It may be a nice example, but for that money you could have a PSA 8 or two PSA 7'S.
  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    I agree that this auction was something of an anomoly, it appears there were only 2 bidders willing to go over $150 and they both really wanted the card. Perhaps they both bid high with the expectations that they would be the top bidder, but caught each other up.

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The runner-up bidder is famous for bidding high on miscuts or high end cards residing in lower grade holders. I lost a high end PSA 8 Stargell rookie to him last week. My bet is the Stargell will reappear in a GAI 8.5 or PSA or GAI 9 holder in a few weeks. image
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Gemint has a strong point. If that underbidder is involved in a card, it's a strong candidate for resubmittal.
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • easttexascardsandgameseasttexascardsandgames Posts: 550
    A GAI 8.5????

    I would guess a GAI 6. I have now submitted 3 GAI 6's to PSA after cracking them out and 2 are PSA 7s and one is an 8.
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  • CARPENTERROBCARPENTERROB Posts: 123
    I bought this one 15 years ago for 90$ back before psa, when I thought it was a mint card. I am hoping it will be a psa 7. The back is flawless. The front as a little white showing on three of the corners. The corners are sharp. It is a fuzz of center left to right, I do not think it would get an oc qualifier. It has been in a plastic case for a few years now, I put it in the case before I knew about looking at the surface in the light. I just looked at the surface though and it looks fine. I have never sent any cards to psa to be graded. This is one of hundreds I need to send in. Anyway I just woundering what you guys think of this one.
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  • CARPENTERROBCARPENTERROB Posts: 123
    How do you attach a good scan of a card here. psa only gives us 50 kb This is the best picture I can come up with that psa would accept.image
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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>The runner-up bidder is famous for bidding high on miscuts or high end cards residing in lower grade holders. I lost a high end PSA 8 Stargell rookie to him last week. My bet is the Stargell will reappear in a GAI 8.5 or PSA or GAI 9 holder in a few weeks. image >>



    Exactly - and there is no doubt at all as to what he was buying it for, and what would happen to it (and which grading company would slab the "new" card for him - hint, it's not PSA).
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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Exactly - and there is no doubt at all as to what he was buying it for, and what would happen to it (and which grading company would slab the "new" card for him - hint, it's not PSA). >>



    Unfortunately that isn't necessarily true. There was a thread recently highlighting a '55 All American football card he won. I think it was a PSA 6 that majically reappeared as a PSA 8 a few weeks later.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • jskirwinjskirwin Posts: 700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How do you attach a good scan of a card here. psa only gives us 50 kb This is the best picture I can come up with that psa would accept.image >>



    50K should be enough for a decent scan.
    Reduce the color depth and resize. Ebay's reqs are 300x400 pixels, which we are all used to looking at around here.

    Also, if you really want this card looked at, pull it out of the plastic, lay the card on the scanner, place a piece of grey/black or some other contrasting color on top of it to bring out the contrast of the corners, and scan it.

    If no one answers your post, then repost as a new topic.
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