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IYHO why are 2001 Topps Hertiage boxes so expensive?

In your honest opinion, why are these boxes so expensive? The gum is delicious I understand, but the odds of pulling a even a Chrome are one per box. I alos realize this is a popular set, but the sp's make it a 7-8 box break for one master set. At $250 per box, it's getting expensive.

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  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    It was just an unexpectedly very popular set, and underproduced. If this board existed in 2001, it would've had as many posts about Heritage as the 2004 and 2005 sets combined. While I never understood why it got up as high as it did, I guess people are willing to pay it. The autographs were relatively easy to pull, though I never got any, and the chrome set was hot at one time, and the short-prints made set-building a challenge. Whatever makes some sets successful and others not, this set had in all sub-grades.
    WANTED:
    2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
    2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
    Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs

    Nothing on ebay
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Helio. The emphasis on First year and 52T design - add the autos and people are still willing to open product!
    I wished I had saved a bunch but when it comes to modern, I never hoard anything - just rip and chew the gum!

    Happy Easter
    mike
    Mike
  • 01 was a great year for heritage. in fact i hadn't ripped a "new" pack since the 83 topps hit shelves. i first saw the cards previewed in my son's beckett. that was all it took, i hunted the whole summer and paid as much as 180 a box on ebay . the cases were selling as high as 2g's (if you could find one) what a great time!! . i think the 2001's are still the best heritage product.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>01 was a great year for heritage. in fact i hadn't ripped a "new" pack since the 83 topps hit shelves. i first saw the cards previewed in my son's beckett. that was all it took, i hunted the whole summer and paid as much as 180 a box on ebay . the cases were selling as high as 2g's (if you could find one) what a great time!! . i think the 2001's are still the best heritage product. >>


    Highend
    I agree... with the 2002 my next favorite! Next year will be good for me also!

    Happy Easter
    mike
    Mike
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    2001 heritage had it all, great design, great pictures, amazing checklist, and the chance of pulling a real 1952 card! Of course
    those redemptions are expired now, but you get 1:152 pack odds of pulling autographs of Mays, Snider, Spahn, Bonds, Arod..the
    list goes on...and while you think you only get 12 sp's, you actually get more because there are low #ed sps too.

    If you want another reason why this stuff is selling over 200 a box, then go to the search link and type in the words heritage museum.

    I will one day open another box of 2001 heritage!

    Kevin
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Stone, I know you haven't hit an auto last year, or this year yet, I feel like I am in the same boat. Although I did pull a Jimmy Piersall back in '01. How did you fair in the 01' heritage.
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    Well i took the easy route back in 2002 and bought a 2001 heritage master set that had 487 cards with red and black backs at the beginning (cant remember the numbers off the top of my head..1-80?). I skipped 2002 apart from buying a few SP's like sosa and bonds....i dont know why but it just didnt interest me (???).

    my fav sets of the GOLDEN era of baseball is 1954 topps to 1957 topps. I have a Heritage 54 and 55 design set..i bought a case of 2003 54 design heritage and came 5 SPs away from a a set with at least 2-3 base sets in the case....i also pulled a Mays Real One Auto and at the time didnt realize how hard it would be to pull such a card from heritage. To date its still my BEST pull ever...and will be tough to beat now that willie aint signing anymore (Teue Fe4u or whatever he signs...anyone have a dag on clue??)

    For 55 design I bought only 4 booster boxes, and then purchased ALOT of extra cards from Stone and JStalin to finish it out....as well as a few other guys. I own alot of 56 and 57 topps cards (100 % on 56 topps without checklists and 98% on 57 topps) so its understandable that this year and next are HUGE FOR ME. My 2005 heritage case was downright AWFUL. IM still about 70 base cards away and 11 sp's from a master set after 8 hobby boxes and 4 booster boxes. due to my HORRIBLE collation....i have a box of 300 cards with only 10 different actual base commons...30 of each!!!!! Topps can bet its butt its getting them back very soon with a request for random replacement.

    NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR. 57 topps is by far the cleanest set ever produced apart from 1967 topps. The wide open photos and white boarders are fantastic....and also reminds me of 84 donruss.....and guess what....thats a classic too (57 seems to have a better photo selection then 84 D though)!!!!

    Loth
  • FuturemanFutureman Posts: 135 ✭✭


    << <i> i also pulled a Mays Real One Auto and at the time didnt realize how hard it would be to pull such a card from heritage. To date its still my BEST pull ever...and will be tough to beat now that willie aint signing anymore (Teue Fe4u or whatever he signs...anyone have a dag on clue??)
    >>




    Did Willie stop signing autographs all together, or did he change his signature? Can someone fill me in?
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Stone, I know you haven't hit an auto last year, or this year yet, I feel like I am in the same boat. Although I did pull a Jimmy Piersall back in '01. How did you fair in the 01' heritage. >>


    I pulled two autos in 01, three in 02, two in 03 and actually did pull one last year but it was a currently player - Cliff Floyd...also pulled his Black chrome and gave it to Chris Kuhlmann I believe. I have done OK in every set except now Heritage for two years!!!

    But, I still love the set and it's the best!

    Happy Easter
    mike
    Mike
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    well, speaking of '01 Heritage, I am down to two cards needed for my master set. Anyone have an extra 340 or 342 laying around by chance? I've got plenty of SPs from 2003, 2004 and 2005 to trade for them. I'll go 2-for-1 in trade.

    Geordie
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Willie Mays has been an avid signer for heritage for some time, I think another company locked him up under contract so
    topps had to say goodbye, that sucks but is how it goes. I was majorly disappointed that topps didn't include Bonds in
    the autograph set. They have let some big name players go to other comapnies, but were supposed to make up for that
    with the addition of Arod and Bonds..so far Bonds has appeared in only one product and only signed 25 cards. The Bonds
    heritage from 01 sell for over 400 bucks everytime it hits ebay...beckett should just book it for 600 bucks but that would
    look funny so they keep it low

    Mays autograph changed sometime after 1952...actually does anyone know if that is what his sig looked like back then? I know
    for the 2001 heritage set all the autos were written by someone else and have nothing to do with the real graphs. Its cool to
    compare the "fake" autos of 1952 with the real ones in 2001 signed by the players themselves.

    Believe it or not, Willie Mays actually signed the most autographs in 2001 heritage....followed by Nomar, Chipper and Bonds!!!! When
    can you say that in a product today?

    I think Kuhlmann needs to get us a box and sell us a few packs each, so we can all get a taste...I would spend 20 bucks on a few packs!

    Kevin
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    20 bucks for a few packs would be great. I picked up 3 boxes (24 ct.) but after opening one, I think I have to open the others. All I got was a chipper chrome image
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    So you have a few virgin boxes in the wings??? Excuse me while I clean the drool off my keyboard....any plans for them, besides
    rip into them like a tiger into fresh meat??


    Kevin
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    The Gum is so good, compared to the 05 Heritage! I had no idea what sugar-full gam tasted like!! I bought a few lots of commons as well, trying to do a base set at the least with SP's. Hoping to pull some big money cards, but the odds are waaaay against me. I willpost results of my 1st box later tonight,.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    1st box
    TN Rizzuto/Jeter, Reese/Nomar
    Classi crenditions Frank thomas (2), Pat burrell
    NAP Vladdy
    THC (ref?) chipper 282/552

    HAve to check Basilone's spread sheet for sp's
    I dont think I hit ANY cards listed in the Beckett
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