Medieval or copy?

tbirde56

French, very thin:

coachleonard

looks too suspiciously round to be authentic. Appears to be a copy of a British 'Tealby' penny of 1154-89. These are normally
very raggedy-shaped and most of the time not fully struck

coachleonard

on the other hand, the workmanship looks very true to the originals--- who knows, maybe an exceptionally-struck authentic piece.

Askari

Hard to say from that pic. The French and Germans have been know to make modern copies of older, historical coins which are not marked as copies. Shouldn't be so shiny if original ... does it show signs of cleaning? If not, I'd be suspicious.

tbirde56

Thanks for the tips!
The pics are from someone trying to find out more about what they have. I don't collect them myself. I thought it was of French origin because of 'Henri' instead of 'Henry' in the legend. They did say that it was very thin like the old Ottoman billon coins.

python

tbirde, it's a "Tealby" penny like Coachleonard said. It does look too well struck for a tealby but the letters
and such look dead on. Do you know what it weighs?

lordmarcovan

Tough call. There is something about the lettering I do not like, even though I know the lettering can be pretty crude on originals.

I can't tell from that picture.

PuddlePirate

I've only seen a couple of them and don't own any. From what I remember though the letters were a little more "crowded" on what I've seen, but they were very thin coins. I think some of the other specialty folks can tell you better.

python

I do think it's more than likely a fake, but I did a search and do think it's possible. There is a lot of variation in the letters on these.

BigAlan

Looks too round and too centered.

Aethelred

No question in my mind that is a modern copy.

Askari

<< <i>I thought it was of French origin because of 'Henri' instead of 'Henry' in the legend. >>

Well, the Normans were Frenchified Norsemen from Normandy -- and we're talking about a period only a century after Hastings.

mrfred

I've had some good results sending suspicious world coins to ANACS for slabbing and authentication. If you don't like to slab your world coins, you can always crack it back out .