How does a qualifier effect price?

poppie

I am a first timer, and could not find anything on the impact of qualifers on price in these forums. If a PSA 8 sells for approximately $825, with PSA 7 $350, what might you expect to receive on an ebay auction for a PSA 8c?

lostdart58

According to PSA standards: They consider a PSA 8 with a qualifier to be the same as a PSA 6 (no qualifuer)

larryallen73

Yup, about like a 6. Made that mistake ONCE when buying a '59 Mantle 8OC. Thought I got a deal for $500. Oh well....

poppie

Thanks for the information, however, i could not find that explanation on the PSA site in the standards section. Is the rule of thumb down two grades for a qualifier?

calleocho

No, a PSA 8 oc could be a PSA 7 or a PSA 2 depending on how bad the centering is.

For registry purposes any kind of qualifier deducts an automatic 2 points from the grade.

koby

The two grade deduction is for purposes of scoring on the registry only. For example a PSA 8 OC would receive the same points as a PSA 6.

If you resubmit a PSA 8 OC card to PSA and ask for no qualifiers, however, you are not guaranteed a PSA 6 in return. If the centering does not meet the criteria for a PSA 6, you can get back an unqualified card much much lower than a 6.

MajorDanby

as you can see, a lot of people think that a qualifier deducts a grade by two. That alone shows that the value of your card will be based on the value of it 2 grades down. Qualifiers are killer for resale value. I bought an SGC 84 Willie Mays 1963 Fleer for about $100. It's on sale right now as a PSA 8 (OC) (i put in "NQ" in the submission form...but it looks like PSA wants you to write it out)....and it wont break close to $75. It's a beautiful card, too.....its just the centering that kills it.

rainmaker

ANY qualifier will kill a cards value. OC is the most common because most people won't submit a card with a stain (ST) or writing (MK) unless it is a very old and very valuable card.

lostdart58

How qualifiers affect the PSA SET REGISTRIES:

"Additionally, the following point deductions are taken for Qualifiers. For example, if your card is graded PSA 9Q, the grade calculation in the Registry will be 7.

9Q = -2
8Q = -2
7Q = -2
6Q = -2
5Q = -2
4Q = -2
3Q = -1
2Q = -1
1Q = no deduction

DS1991Topps

So... if you are building a Registry Set and you submit a card that read PSA 9(ST)... It only counts as a grade of PSA 7? Is this correct?

Stone193

Poppie
Welcome to the boards! How much the card is actually off-centered will have an effect on what the card is worth. On ebay now, OC is the kiss of death!!!
Good luck.

DS
You're math is right on the money!

your friend
mike

goudeygold

Do not be tempted by OC cards unless your just gonna keep them and "what if" yourself to death if it was 5% more centered. Among the collectors of primo cards OC is indeed the kiss of death. Look at the registry sets. RARELY do ANY good sets have any qualifiers. The only thing i'll accept is a MK only if its on the reverse and not obnoxious. But i'm easily the minority here.

GG

lostdart58

<< <i>So... if you are building a Registry Set and you submit a card that read PSA 9(ST)... It only counts as a grade of PSA 7? Is this correct? >>




Yes, that is correct......a PSA 7

JoeBanzai

The OC certainly hurts a cards value, but it really depends on "eye appeal" for me. A card centered side to side, but just barely high enough to get an OC would be something I might buy. Of course I would expect to pay less than for a "perfectly" centered one.

I have a 1959 Killebrew PSA 8 that looks more like an off center 9 to me. It has perfect corners, edges etc, but is about 70/30 low and 70/30 to one side. I debated the point with the seller before buying it, and I would have paid much ($50.00-$75.00-???) more for an 8 with near perfect centering. I also feel that it might have been given a little slack because of the '59s being so off-center.