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Are the Cards Pictured in this auction Near Mint?

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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Note to sellers :

    If you're going to grossly exaggerate condition, don't provide large scans.

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  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    LOL. I can't beleive the bidding is so high.
  • rainmakerrainmaker Posts: 45 ✭
    If you collect off center cards then that would be a good set to pickup.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Also the corners on some of the cards aren't that great.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    Thurmy doesn't look too bad, maybe a 6 or generous 7. But there's some VG-EX corners on Roberto and horrid centering, almost miscuts, on some of the others.
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    It's funny, I am currently slowly going through my completed 1970 set that I completed in 1984. 1970 was the first year I started collecting and I really love this set. Some of the cards in the scans look like my cards but I get all goggly-eyed when I see cards of this set so I appreciate these cards no matter what condition they are in.

    I am curious as to why you would think $560 is already too high for this set when an EX set would book for $1200?
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Buccaneer, I didn't realize an EX set booked so high. I own about 260 of these cards from my childhood and they are in pretty decent shape. The stars I sent into PSA graded PSA 5 and PSA 6. I am thinking of completing the rest of the set.
  • cybrbrdrcybrbrdr Posts: 17
    The term "near mint" is really thrown around a lot on Ebay, as most of you know. It is
    ridiculous what some sellers call "near mint" or even higher.
    It always amazes me, however, how relative the grading levels are when looking at one
    era's cards compared to another. I collect early 50's baseball, and by our standards regarding
    those sets, the 70 Topps scans would be Mint to Gem Mint. Actually, even the very few 1952 to 1956 Topps
    which grade at the PSA 9 or 10 levels don't have corner structure as sharp as those 70's. They never
    did; the paper used on the early cards, the lack of coatings, and the cutting techniques of that day
    would never have produced that kind of corner structure. In other words, they just didn't come out of
    the pack that way.
    But, it is discussed that these 1970 cards might only be in the 5 to 6 range. And, that is probably
    pretty accurate. It would seem that the entire process of judging grading standards must be segmented
    into perameters that fit each era, along with the subtleties of each sets printing/manufacturing characteristics.

  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Well, the scans are pretty large so anybody who knows any thing about PSA's grading system would realize they are PSA 5 or 6.

    Why don't many auctions contain photos of the backs of cards? Isn't that important too?
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    What is the most that you would bid for this set?
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭
    It says mint in the subject and near mint to near mint/mint in the description.
    Well what the h*ll are they!?!?!?
  • glmuellerglmueller Posts: 138
    NO, these are not NM!!
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    I realize they are not Near Mint. That was the point of my thread if you read my posts from the beginning. What would you pay for this set assuming it's EX from the photos?
  • loki23loki23 Posts: 134
    You gotta admit...claiming they are Near Mint and then posting that horribly OC Ryan was pretty ballsy though!
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  • flash2flash2 Posts: 100 ✭
    been buying on ebay and yahoo since 1998 and whatever grade is stated knock it down at least one grade (two with most of your bigger names).most are honest and just fool themselves into a higher grade.at least you had nice pictures and could gauge yourself.
  • phreakydancinphreakydancin Posts: 1,691 ✭✭


    << <i>You gotta admit...claiming they are Near Mint and then posting that horribly OC Ryan was pretty ballsy though! >>

    I thought putting the Clemete first was even ballsier. I'm sure a lot of potential buyers would take one look at the corners on that card and hit the Back button on their browser.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    A similar set in about the same condition sold for $487 recently:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86836&item=5173240518&rd=1
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    That would be about right, gemmy. Generally one looks for the sell price to be about half of book.

    flash2, I don't play that game as a seller (overgrading the cards knowing the buyer would automatically lower them by 1 or 2). Using PSA grading standards, I state the grades on my cards as accurate as possible and as some of my recent feedbacks, I have been right on or perhaps undergraded a little.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Buccaneer, if you think it should sell for about 1/2 Book and is about right, why did you post this to me?:

    "I am curious as to why you would think $560 is already too high for this set when an EX set would book for $1200?"

    What does an EX-MT set book for?
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    Gemmy, about half would be 40-50% of book imo so on an EX set, that would be anywhere between $480-$600. Should have broadened by definition a little. As far as EX/MT book, I didn't think about it because this set ain't that.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Hard to believe it is up to $711 with almost 3 days to go since the large scans show the condition of the cards. It looks like dealers are bidding with high feedback. The power of eBay.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't bid because the seller doesn't give enough info. There could be some NM to NMMT cards in the set, but how many and which ones? I have sold several high priced sets on Ebay in recent years including a couple of 1970 sets. When I sell one, I grade every card in the set, and say that there are __ NMMT, __NM, __ EXMT, __EX, and so on. I also take all of the stars in the set and list each grade as well.

    I am just going to be blunt. Most sellers with those kind of sets are just too dang lazy, and they are scared of their own grading. If I have a set of that caliber, I give as much information as possible, and have had great success with it. I even do it with partial sets as well. Sure it takes a lot of time and effort, but when a seller takes the time to give as much info as possible, AND grades the cards as accurately as possible, you tend to get a good reputation, and the sets go much higher. Bottom line - most sellers are just too lazy!!!

    Shane

  • metsfanmetsfan Posts: 834
    Gemmy:
    I would say the 2nd seller sounds more honest. He grades out all the keys,mentions creases and if the card is centered. This way you will not be suprised.I think the first seller just says they are NM/MT but expects the buyer to grade them! If you are looking to buy a set,it would be best to see it in person,otherwise, most dealers overgrade by 1-2 grades.
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  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    <<Sure it takes a lot of time and effort, but when a seller takes the time to give as much info as possible, AND grades the cards as accurately as possible, you tend to get a good reputation, and the sets go much higher. Bottom line - most sellers are just too lazy!!!>>

    True.

    If one looks at the cards I bought to the naked eye they look mint. When I did a 400 DPI scan some of the corners were slightly touched.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭

    $1,603.88 Holy Moly
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