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The Los Altos Collection of 1934-1958 Lincoln Cents


I'm posting this under a separate thread, it's about the finest PCGS-certified collection of 1934-1958 Lincoln Cents ever offered at auction. Many are the finest known.

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I spent some more time comparing the Los Altos collection being offered by Bowers and Merena in April with the Mershon collection. Bowers are touting the Los Altos as the finest PCGS-certified collection of 1934-1958 Lincoln Cents ever offered at auction. There are six finer coins in the Los Altos Collection, details below:

1934 MS-68 RD (PCGS). Ex. Benson.

1935 MS-68 RD (PCGS).

1939-D MS-68 RD (PCGS).

1949 MS-67 RD (PCGS).

1953 MS-67 RD (PCGS).

1954 MS-67 RD (PCGS).

Quote from Bowers and Merena Press Release
"Specialists in the Lincoln Cent series, especially those assembling PCGS Registry Sets, will delight in Bowers and Merena's offering of the Los Altos Collection," continued Ambio. "This important collection is the finest PCGS-certified set of 1934-1958 Lincoln Cents ever offered at auction, and it includes numerous top-of-the-pop examples."
Full Press Release

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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    The bid for those 6 coins (including juice), is already over $30K
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    The bid for those 6 coins (including juice), is already over $30K


    SOG,

    You think those are reserves or actual bids?


    Jack

    Edited to add: bh90210, turn on your PM function.

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    A 1954P in PCGS MS67RD!!! image
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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    Not sure about if they are reserves, but in the last 2 hours, the "current bids" went from $30K to $43K (5 of the 6 jumped).

    The total for the collection is at $96K. 27 of the coins are a total of $85K and the remaining 44 are $11K (broken up by the coins I have and then ones that I don't. Any guess which are which?)
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    Jack:

    They're actual bids. They're all mine from about an hour ago. image Some hit the reserves, some close....image

    -----Lloyd
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    onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭
    I bid on 3 and the site said I had not reached the reserve yet and poped
    a bid one increment higher then my bids.
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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    Not sure about reserves, but the set is already at $115K (with juice)

    The "6 that Tom doesn't have" are now at: $49.3K (with juice)

    On a side note, does anyone else find it annoying that B&M separates their "special" sets from the rest of their listings? If I were just searching in Lincolns or if the Los Altos set had one pattern in it (and I was searching for patterns), I would have never even seen the coins I was interested in.
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    SOG,

    I think the reserves have been set a little high. I took a few swings at some of the lots and still don't have a single "green check mark". However, I don't have any doubt that the lots will sell. Lincolns are just plain crazy, right now.

    Jack

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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    Not 100% sure how B&M works, but these are actual bids, correct?

    So even if the coins do not sell, this is what people would be willing to pay for them
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    FYI:

    I hit most of the reserves on the "bigger" lincolns. ALL will sell. But I am no longer high bidder on some of them. Lincolns through the roof is an understatement.
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    Lloyd,

    Yes, ALL will sell. Out of respect for the person who set the reserves and the consignor, I should not have stated that the reserves were too high. I should have indicated that they were too high for me. Again, there are plenty of deep pockets putting together sets out there.

    Jack
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    But are deep pockets needed??? Whoever it is, can spend $12000 or less on a lot of these top Lincolns. Nothing compared to Gold, Bust years, or Silver dollars, etc.
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    It's all a matter of perspective. For most people, 12 grand is a big chunk of change. On the other hand, it's chump change for someone putting together a complete set of Stellas. When I'm talking about deep pockets, I'm talking about the two to three guys out there that can buy the P-mints in 67 from this sale and turn around next month and swallow up a good chunk of the Mershon sale. Remember, in the Mershon sale 12 grand isn't going to go very far.

    Jack

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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    With one week to go, the total (with juice) is $121,220 for the entire set, and $50,255 for the "extra" 6. There are a few that still look very "undervalued" to me.

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    think it would be best to wait for the floor bidding or go ahead
    and bid now via there website
    thanks
    Tim
    LOOKING FOR 1931-s merc that is nice for the grade and fb
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    Tim,

    I think it depends on the lot. If you are going for one of the "biggies", I'd figure out a way to get there and floor bid. For the others, I'd bet you'd do O'K with some internet bids.

    Jack
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    thanks Jack,
    maybe I will call my dealer and have them place a few bids for me
    TIm
    LOOKING FOR 1931-s merc that is nice for the grade and fb
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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    B&M is one place that this makes a lot more sense. They use to charge an extra fee to bid on the web (but most people didn't even know they did it this way). I am pretty sure they still do it.

    Just say I bid $2500 and the bid increment is $250. If anyone one at the auction, or mail bid or phone bid $2500 also, they would win (in ALL ties, the internet bidder loses). So in order for an internet bidder to win, you have to pay one more increment more than a live person. THIS IS NOT THE CASE where the bid is currently $2250 and is the internet's bidder and the next live bidder is $2500. This is the case, where the internet bid is $2500 and someone on the floor can say, I am willing to pay $2500 also and they win.
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    DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    THIS IS NOT THE CASE where the bid is currently $2250 and is the internet's bidder and the next live bidder is $2500. This is the case, where the internet bid is $2500 and someone on the floor can say, I am willing to pay $2500 also and they win.

    I think this is wrong. IMO It punishes the internet bidder, especially if that's the only way they have to bid on a coin. Not everyone has, or wants, a representative bidding for them.

    With the number of active internet bidders, I'm surprised this happens. I guess I need to re-read the auction rules again.









    Dan
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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    Speaking (actually emailing) to Mr Bower himself, he viewed it as a reward to the people that took the time and the expense to come to the auction in person. When I asked about people that called, mailed or faxed their orders in (they also beat internet bidders) and what reason there was for them to "trump" internet bidders, I failed to receive a reply.

    Just because you pay someone some money to make you a website, that does not make you an "internet" company.
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    lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861
    Sono:

    I am confused. You are not making sense. If the Internet Bid is $2500, THE FLOOR OPENS THE LOT AT $2750!!! They already hadve a bid at $2500, so why would they go for a tie???!! THEY DO NOT OPEN THE FLOOR BID AT THE CURRENT INTERNET BID.

    If a mail bid and an Internet bid is both at $2500, and NO ONE ON THE FLOOR BIDS THE OPEN INCREMENT OF $2750, the mail bidder wins. When the Internet bidding closes (usually a day before the floor bidding), the auction sight KNOWS what the high Internet bid was, and OPEN THE FLOOR BIDDING ONE INCREMENT HIGHER. Real simple. If the Internet bidder is the highest, and no one on the floor bids higher, and no mail bids, Internet is the winner.
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    Warning! I looked at these lots at Santa Clara. These coins need to be carefully examined. I saw several coins where spots were removed and other irregularities showed up. Someof the coins are awesome. Others are real dangerous.

    I'm not a penny weenie, I just wanted to see what all the fuss is about. Untiul I saw them, I was thinking of buying one for my type set.
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    haletjhaletj Posts: 2,192
    Just great. image Thank you for the advice.
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    bullseye,

    Do you remember any that stuck out as being really nice?

    What happened to bh90210? Maybe that person would like to comment on the coins.

    Jack

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    Bullseye:

    E MAIL ME WHICH ARE QUESTIONABLE!!!
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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    If there are two internet bids, one at $100 and one at $10,000, they open the floor bid at $150 (or whatever the increment is at this point). So the bidding starts at one increment above the 2nd highest internet bid.

    If there are two internet bids, one at $100 and one at $150, then the bidding STARTS AT $150. Someone on the floor can bid $150 and the internet bidder loses.

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    No Son________:

    high bid woud be at $150, so it would open at $200. ALREADY SOMEONE HIGH BID TO 150, knocking off 100.
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    sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    No lloydmincy, I lost 4 times at B&M because of this.
    Stopped bidding there.

    If I come across the emails from Mr Bower, I will forward them to you if you are interested.
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    lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861
    Son____

    Wow. If that is TRULY the case, learn something everyday, although i think that is a RAW DEAL. And it doesnt make any sense to me.
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