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Am I a wanna be dealer?

I usually try to stay away from the fights on the message boards. I, like most, have lurked on Laura's posts on wanna-be dealers. They are usually a pretty fun read, but man... they get long quick. I've tried to stay out of them. For one thing, there are a lot of valid points on both sides. I dont want to get caught up arguing about something that wont change anyone's mind about anything.

Another member posted a thread with the same title as this one. I thought about it and figured I'd wait until that one got all the posts it was going to, then post the same one for me.

So here's my situation....

I was big into Lincoln cents for a number of years. As a person that earns a meager 24+K per year, I was not able to collect at the level that I wanted to. I didnt think it was right for me to budget for coins. After all, at my age, about 25 at the time, a couple hundred bucks per month would go a long way in a 401K by the time I retire. So I looked at my options. I ultimatly decided that I would use the knowledge and skills that my hobbie afforded me to finance my collecting endevors. I started really small, $10-$50 coins and tried to score four or five bucks profit on each transaction after all the fees were paid for. After two or three months of that, I was doing ok, but dang.... ebay was making as much as me. I looked at the fee schedule and decided I was going to have buy and sell higher dollar coins to make any money. So I started selling higher level coins. I tried to stay in the $50-$200 range. It worked well for me.

Well, time went on, and I started making a decent amount of money. When I noticed that I was pulling in enough to actually be concidered an income, I decided that I needed to give Uncle Sam his fair share. So I went to the court house, claimed an assumed name, went to the bank, and opened an account. So began my work as a part time dealer.

I'm now approching my two year mark. I think I have done very well. If I were to guess, I'd say that about half of my profit has been made off of PCGS submissions. I CAN grade coins. Most of the rest, I got from quick turnover purchases. I do not have, and have no intention of having a physical shop. This is something that I do on the side. My inventory is my "collection." In the last two years, it's grown about 400%.... significantly more than what it would have if I were spending money on coins as I could afford it out of the personal funds.

So you tell me, does this make me a wanna-be dealer?

David

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    Real dealers have to start somewhere...
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    So you tell me, does this make me a wanna-be dealer?

    Why do you care about what type of label Laura or anybody else would put on your type of dealing?
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    I believe that you are a pretty sharp fellow. I did the same thing with Morgans, as my previous business was not doing too well. In 18 months, I was selling 50-100k of coins a month on Ebay. I have over 2000 positive feedback to prove that my customers are plenty satisfied. In fact, my only negative was from an establishment dealer who wanted to illegally upcharge my purchase by 3%, to cover his Paypal fees. Let the bitter old line dealers wallow in their self pity. We do not have to become obsequious to there self serving pronouncements.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you stay with what you are good at, or are you also selling other series that you know little/nothing about and telling buyers (non-ebay) that you are an expert in those?
    I think you know you aren't a wannabe, but I think that if you just started on all series and weren't honest about your expertise with each, you could cross that line.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    edited out.. ment to PM
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    Bravo, LincolnCentMan, i like stories like yours. Hey Laura, what about this guy? image
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    KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382
    If I understand Laura's definition of Wannabe. Yep, you are one. Join the crowd,... so are 95% of people in the business. I think you're doing fine. As long as you stay honest and don't mis-represent what you're selling, then you're a good guy and will do well. I got into this with an almost identical story to yours, keep it up!
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    Even though you are not full time and don't travel to all the national shows you are not a problem, IMO. You know how to grade raw coins. You are specialized so can make a fair market in Lincoln Cents. You are not out to rip people off. I don't know if you want to be a full time dealer but I don't think Laura's term helps her make her point.
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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Bump for the evening crowd.
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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
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    GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,856 ✭✭✭✭
    Not a wannabe.
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    nope- not a wannabe. But if you start listing adds on fleabay as past idiots do ie= hype, then you will be a wannabe.
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    Sure you're a wannabe, just like the rest of us! image

    You wannabe able to collect what you like without someone telling you your stupid or ignorant.
    You wannabe able to turn over extra junk you accumlate along with coins you really DO like, to get MORE coins you really Do like!
    You wannabe able to admire what you have and have accomplished, then pass it on to others to admire when something better comes along.
    You wannabe of good service to those that you sell to, whether collector or dealer or investor or whatever, becauseeverybody likes a good reputation.

    Personally, I wouldn't care what others thought. I replied to one of those posts because as I read it, I really really got quite irked as it seemed to be a put down to sell parts of your collection to build other parts. Kind of like it's wrong or immoral to do so. Then I remembered back to a few years ago in California when the BBB and "7 On Your Side" did this "exclusive" of how home based businesses and consultants were "all scams" feeding people false information while charging "outrageously low" charges for their services. After a few weeks of this continued propoganda on the media, it only took a few months later before we had to "close up shop" and call it quits.

    I saw no difference in these Legend posts of "don't trust them, trust me, I know better, they're all scams" that it just got under my skin. But, still, oh well, who cares what "they" think. The people I BST with know what I'm about for the most part and know my integrity. That is all that matters.
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    << <i>So you tell me, does this make me a wanna-be dealer? >>



    Does it really matter?As long as you were honest and you weren't looking to dupe people your ok in my book.image
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    No, I don't think you're a wannabe, even by Laura's standards. In her definition there's an element of either incompetence or deceit which you don't have.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
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    I've always thought you are a straight shoot LCM!

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    If ya wanna be...............your a dealer.


    I too was a dealer back in the mid 60's and it was like far out man. imageimage




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